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Esmer wrote:
  • Kravitz plays guitar, bass, drums, piano, saxophone, trumpet and sitar. He usually plays all the instruments on each recorded track.....

    Having taught himself bass, piano, guitar, and drums at an early age and developed his singing voice in the California Boys Choir and the Metropolitan Opera, he attended Beverly Hills High School and performed under the artist name, Romeo Blue. At that stage, he was heavily influenced by Prince. His parents were friends with jazz greats Duke Ellington, Sarah Vaughan, Count Basie, Ella Fitzgerald, Bobby Short, and Miles Davis so he grew up in a musical household although he would pursue a career in rock rather than jazz.
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I'll go with the guy who makes their music unique/memorable over technical virtuosity (i.e., I'll take Lennon's solo on "Yer Blues" over Eric Clapton's). Plus, Jimi Hendrix wrote "Little Wing" last time I checked, and Kravitz didn't. Ouch, shouldn't go that low. :biggrin:
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danlo wrote:Menolly, granted, different tastes-but I KNOW you're clearly not listened to enough of him...
danlo, just to be clear, we're talking Neil Young and not Lenny Kravitz here, right?

My problem with Neil Young (and, the same goes with Bob Dylan) is that while I love the songs they write when covered by performers who can carry a tune, I just can not get past what sounds to me like a chanting monotone when they perform their own tunes.

I can say the same about Bruce Sprinsteen I guess. I love Manfred Mann and the Earth Band's cover of Blinded by the Light. But I can't even listen to it when I hear Springsteen's original or live versions.

Unfortunately, Beorn's chanting of the Torah and Haftorah remindsme very much of Neil Young's and Bob Dylan's vocal styles. While I'm sure I'll be all schmaltzy on his big day in a little over a month, you have no idea how much it pains this college voice major to know her own son can't carry a tune in a bucket.
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Young, Hendrix, Dylan....Can't carry a tune in a bucket, but they're all gifted songwriters. Kravitz is a cheap rip-off artist with no style or soul of his own. Gimme Prince any day of the week.

I put Gilmour in the same eschelon as Beck, Clapton, and Page. No, he's not fast, but he's got MF'n tone. Dave's got more vibrato than Katherine Hepburn. He can say more in one note than most other players can say in a 10 minute solo.
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Cail wrote:I put Gilmour in the same eschelon as Beck, Clapton, and Page. No, he's not fast, but he's got MF'n tone. Dave's got more vibrato than Katherine Hepburn. He can say more in one note than most other players can say in a 10 minute solo.
Yeah, Dave is a bit of a paradox to me--slowness but exquisite smoothness/tone. Not sure where I fit him, and then I start thinking he just might be his own class. To me, those super-fast players seem to be all mechanical, lacking any distinct ideas. Robert Fripp is one of the big exceptions, I’d say.
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Here's the thing......AMLoR is a huge guitar album. I learned to play it (the whole album) in about a day. He rocks the good 'ol pentatonic scale like no one's business, but he's got that MF'n tone. I mean, I can play every note on that album, but he shakes that thing to death. The guy is just F'n sick how he plays.
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Oh yes, David Gilmour, Jimmy Page, and for me, Steve Howe (but then, I m a Yes fanatic) (so pissed that danlo beat me to Heart of the Sunrise on the other thread) are the guitar g-ds to listen to.

Clapton I have difficulty appreciating, except for his solo on While My Gutar Gently Weeps. And who does lead guitar on the origianl Layla? Clapton or Duane Allman? Beautiful, man.

While not my typical choice of music, I went with Paul to the Monsters of Rock show at the Orange Bowl in Miami back when we first got together. Van Halen was the headliner, but that was my first exposure to The Scorpions. Wow, not only were they musicians, but even without all the pyrotechnics VH pulled out later, The Scorpions were showmen. I would go to another show of theirs in a heartbeat, although I don't own a single track by them.
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heh....I was there. Saw that tour at RFK in DC. I've always loved the Scorpions, had a lot of their vinyl, but oddly enough I don't have any of their CDs now. The real eye opener for me was Dokken. I despised hair metal at the time, but George Lynch just blew me away...Made me want to burn all my guitars.

Clapton is one of those guys who really stayed true to his roots. The first time I saw him was on the Behind the Sun tour in '85(?). The guy was just silly.

Over the course of those two years I saw Clapton, Page, Dharma (BOC), Frampton, Gilmour, DiMartini (Ratt), Van Halen, and a bunch of others who have faded into the mist, but Clapton and Gilmour really left a mark on me.
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Paul really got into Dokken at that show. He still has the t-shirt he bought after they finished their set.
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Cail wrote:Young, Hendrix, Dylan....Can't carry a tune in a bucket, but they're all gifted songwriters. Kravitz is a cheap rip-off artist with no style or soul of his own. Gimme Prince any day of the week.

and yer point is? :screwy:
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white men can't jump, c2...... :P
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My point is.....

Ah Hell, what was my point.....

Oh right, that Kravitz is the K-Mart Hendrix, and He's an absolute embarassment to rock 'n roll.....He's a pretender to the throne whao hasn't had an original song idea in his life and instead is riding the coattails of his predecessors and churning out product rather than music. Oh, and he's a fashion slave too. I wish he'd been happy banging Lisa Bonet ('cause I would've been) and kept his derivative mouth shut.
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Cail wrote:My point is.....

Ah Hell, what was my point.....

Oh right, that Kravitz is the K-Mart Hendrix, and He's an absolute embarassment to rock 'n roll.....He's a pretender to the throne whao hasn't had an original song idea in his life and instead is riding the coattails of his predecessors and churning out product rather than music. Oh, and he's a fashion slave too. I wish he'd been happy banging Lisa Bonet ('cause I would've been) and kept his derivative mouth shut.

:haha:

i want him anyway. :twisted:
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You can have him. And for the benefit of the rest of humanity, whaen you're done with him pull either a Black Widow or a Praying Mantis on his untalented ass.
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yea, I think thats their problem, Luci, either jealousy or closet homosexuality issues....heh :twisted:


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Cail wrote:You can have him. And for the benefit of the rest of humanity, whaen you're done with him pull either a Black Widow or a Praying Mantis on his untalented ass.
ok. deal. :R
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Right on!

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Lucimay wrote:i want him anyway. :twisted:
Oh...!

So it isn't his music that makes you defend him so vehemently. I can't really argue with lust.

So, we're all agreed that musically he sucks, but Luci is welcome to his body?
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NO! :P
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Look, you can do whatever you want to him, as long as he creates no more music.
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OK all, I have to let this discussion go. I really should have been in bed to fall alseep three hours ago at the latest.

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