Stingray kills "Crocodile Hunter"
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--AIrwin Tape 'Must Be Destroyed'
Sydney - A tape showing the death of Australian Crocodile Hunter Steve Irwin, who was killed by a stingray in waters off the coast of northern Australia, should never be shown, his manager said on Wednesday.
"It should be destroyed," John Stainton said of the recording of Irwin's death on Monday off the Great Barrier Reef when the barb of a stingray punctured his heart.
"At the moment, it's in police custody for evidence, there's a coroner's inquest taking place at the moment, and when that (tape) is finally released it will never see the light of day, ever," Stainton said on CNN's Larry King Live.
'A hard experience'
"I actually saw it and I don't want to see it again," he said.
"I had to watch it because I wanted to make sure what was on that tape that was going to the police, we had to watch it to sign off on it.
"It was a hard experience," Stainton said.
He did not give details of what the tape showed.
Irwin, 44, whose daring face-to-face confrontations with all manner of deadly crocodiles, snakes and spiders made him a global media phenomenon, plucked the barb from his chest before collapsing and dying, Stainton said.
Filming documentary
He said the incident took place off Port Douglas, on the far northern coast of Australia, while Irwin was filming a documentary for the Discovery Channel called Ocean's Deadliest.
He said he believed Irwin was dead before he was flown by helicopter back to the mainland for emergency medical treatment.
"We spent the next 50 minutes or more on CPR (cardio-pulmonary resuscitation) trying to keep him alive," Stainton said, adding: "I don't think he was alive."
The Discovery Channel, watched by more than 200 million people around the world, said the footage of Irwin's death may never be aired.
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[u][b]CNN.com[/b][/u] wrote:Storm breaks over attack on Irwin
POSTED: 5:36 a.m. EDT, September 7, 2006
SYDNEY, Australia (CNN) -- Comments by academic Germaine Greer on the death of wildlife TV star Steve Irwin have triggered a storm of anger with the Australian author criticized for being "insensitive" and "elitist."
Greer, best known for her feminist book "The Female Eunuch", said Wednesday Irwin was an "embarrassment" and a "self-deluded animal torturer."
Irwin, who gained international fame for his "Crocodile Hunter" TV series, was killed Monday by a stingray barb while filming a wildlife documentary.
Speaking on Australian TV Channel Nine's "A Current Affair" news program Wednesday, Greer described those who mourned Irwin's passing as "idiots" and said possibly millions of Australians were embarrassed by him.
Greer said Irwin had not treated animals with the respect they deserved.
"He would tell you how dangerous they were and he would proceed to intrude on their space and humiliate (them) really -- treat them with massive insensitivity," she said. "It's no surprise he came to grief."
Greer's views, first aired in Britain's Guardian newspaper on Tuesday, have drawn a sharp response in Australia from politicians and commentators.
Queensland state leader Peter Beattie told Greer to "back off" and labeled her comments "stupid" and "insensitive."
"Germaine Greer is just wrong and I just can't imagine anyone being more insensitive and, frankly, stupid," he said Thursday.
"This argument is just extreme radical rubbish from Germaine Greer and it couldn't come at a more insensitive time.
"Any suggestion that he (Irwin) mistreated animals is just rubbish ... he educated a generation."
Author John Birmingham, writing in The Australian newspaper Thursday, called Greer's comments "a poisonous discharge of bile" which encapsulated the views of a "whole class of Australian sophisticates" who felt uncomfortable with Irwin's global celebrity.
Greer is a frequent critic of personalities like British soccer star David Beckham and social trends like reality television, although she herself appeared briefly in Britain's Celebrity Big Brother series.
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Oh, that's from kevinswatch.ihugny.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=7188&start=0
May never be aired?? Does that mean they're actually considering it? Now, I don't know about the rest of you, but I sure as hell wouldn't want my death aired on international tv.The Discovery Channel, watched by more than 200 million people around the world, said the footage of Irwin's death may never be aired.
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Interesting question... if my family got a LOT of money from it wouldnt bother me! I'd be dead after all!!Alynna Lis Eachann wrote:.... Now, I don't know about the rest of you, but I sure as hell wouldn't want my death aired on international tv.
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From what it sounds like though, he wasn't "in action". Every account of his death seems like a freak accident.
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He wasn't playing with stingrays... he actually was trying to shoot some scenes for a children's show, and the stingray just happened to be buried beneath the sand where he passed... also, stingray stings, while poisonous, don't usually kill people, only hurt like hell; in Irwin's case, though, the serrated edge of the sting pierced his heart, so he died almost instantly. This definitely sounds like a freak accident...Creator wrote:Swimming underwater playing with stingrays would be 'action' for ME!!Cail wrote:From what it sounds like though, he wasn't "in action". Every account of his death seems like a freak accident.
I've snorkled with stingrays and fed them out of my hand. They're like puppies. I read somewhere that there's only 3 recorded deaths from stingrays....They're not usually dangerous.
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Hence he was 'in action'!Xar wrote:... he actually was trying to shoot some scenes for a children's show, ....
The fact that the stingray was not a 'planned' death defying feat doesn't change that fact. Said a different way, if he got caught on film getting hit by a truck and killed while he was crossing a street - that would NOT be 'in action'. IMO, his actual situation was 'in the line of duty'.He/She who dies with the most toys wins! Wait a minute ... I can't die!!!
Meh, I guess so. Still, it wasn't as if he was teasing the rays.....
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Not true. I work in the ambulance service for Queensland and a coworker read the report. It pierced the upper quadrant of his chest and he was flooded with toxins.Xar wrote:He wasn't playing with stingrays... he actually was trying to shoot some scenes for a children's show, and the stingray just happened to be buried beneath the sand where he passed... also, stingray stings, while poisonous, don't usually kill people, only hurt like hell; in Irwin's case, though, the serrated edge of the sting pierced his heart, so he died almost instantly. This definitely sounds like a freak accident...Creator wrote:Swimming underwater playing with stingrays would be 'action' for ME!!Cail wrote:From what it sounds like though, he wasn't "in action". Every account of his death seems like a freak accident.
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God, is that the real video?? Why would anyone put that on the internet? How horrible... 
I read in some magazine last night (People maybe) that there have only been 17 recorded deaths from stingray barbs, and that if he'd been scored anyplace else, he would have spent "an uncomfortable couple of days" and been fine. The article equated the chances of this happening with those of getting struck by lightning.
I don't watch tv. I've seen Irwin before, of course, but only randomly now and then. I thought he was crazy, but he seemed to know what he was doing, and I wished him luck with it. I've heard so many people recently say that he'd been courting death all along, and it was only a matter of time....I don't really know enough about him to agrue that point one way or another. But I know that that magazine laid on my friends table all night last night, and every time I looked down at the cover photo of that handsome smiling man with the baby crocodile, I would remember with a jolt that he was dead, and that hurt to think about. The man in the photo was young, he looked extremely happy, and the photos inside showed him with very young children (at least one of whom will have almost no memory of him) and a beautiful wife. Freak accident, or just desserts - it doesn't matter to me. I think about his wife's reaction when she heard the news, and that's the only thing that's important to me.
Peace and Godspeed to all the Irwins.
I read in some magazine last night (People maybe) that there have only been 17 recorded deaths from stingray barbs, and that if he'd been scored anyplace else, he would have spent "an uncomfortable couple of days" and been fine. The article equated the chances of this happening with those of getting struck by lightning.
I don't watch tv. I've seen Irwin before, of course, but only randomly now and then. I thought he was crazy, but he seemed to know what he was doing, and I wished him luck with it. I've heard so many people recently say that he'd been courting death all along, and it was only a matter of time....I don't really know enough about him to agrue that point one way or another. But I know that that magazine laid on my friends table all night last night, and every time I looked down at the cover photo of that handsome smiling man with the baby crocodile, I would remember with a jolt that he was dead, and that hurt to think about. The man in the photo was young, he looked extremely happy, and the photos inside showed him with very young children (at least one of whom will have almost no memory of him) and a beautiful wife. Freak accident, or just desserts - it doesn't matter to me. I think about his wife's reaction when she heard the news, and that's the only thing that's important to me.
Peace and Godspeed to all the Irwins.
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