Question about Kevin's Watch History...

Post by **sgt.null** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 8:38 pm

qUEEAQUEG :
i call up all posts from when I last posted, then open seperate windows from the oldest to the newest. i can do four windows at once. and at some point I mixed up what I was answering.

Post by **jwaneeta** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 8:57 pm

Wayfriend wrote:I would think someone in your profession is familiar with the concept of a publisher that flips an image vertically without asking the artist about it ...

Indeed I did think of it, but as you note below, it's a finger-having thing.

EDIT: did you know, when something is reversed horizontally, a lot of commercial artists stubbornly refer to it as "flopping"? For no legitimate reason anyone can quote.

In [u]Lord Foul's Bane[/u] was wrote:the scar which stretched from the heel of his right palm across where his last two fingers had been.

In [u]The Wounded Land[/u] was wrote:For the first time, she observed that the last two fingers of his right hand were missing. He wore a wedding band of white gold on what had once been the middle finger of that hand.

Oh ho! The deuce you say! So he DID start wearing it on his maimed hand. This is significant! It's symbolic! He made peace with the past, owned his wounds, achieved integration. Stopped bellyaching about things, in fine.

Well, well. Maybe I've finally got me a GI question after all.

Post by **wayfriend** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 12:02 am

jwaneeta wrote:Well, well. Maybe I've finally got me a GI question after all.

Aw, now you're asking for a "You go, girl".

Post by **jwaneeta** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 12:50 am

Wayfriend wrote: Aw, now you're asking for a "You go, girl".

Nah, not so much. There's a long way between saying and doing when you're as big a chicken as I am.

I'd rather ask you guys.

Like: did Andelain have seasons, circa the second Chrons? Iquestor once said he thought Andelain was suspended in an eternal spring. Which makes total poetic sense to me, but as an illustrator I guess I like thinking of it as season-having because that means there's more material, visually.

So which is correct: Iquestor's keen intuition or what sorts with my own convenience?

Also, is it intimated (by Atarian) that Caerroil Wildwood started life as a human Unfettered One? Or that at least rumor gave him human origins?

Are the Covenant threads appropriate for these sorts of questions? I mean, most of them aren't about Covenant. Is that cool?

Post by **CovenantJr** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 1:14 am

It'd be better to put those kind of questions in the Covenant forum, if for no other reason than to make the answers easy to find for newer people. The Covenant forum is basically for anything in the Covenant books pre-Runes of the Earth.

I'm not 100% certain, but I am reasonably sure that no mention is ever made of Forestals starting out as Unfettered. In fact, I'm 90% certain Forestals are entirely non-human. I don't have my books to hand though, so I can't quote you anything.

As for Andelain...there's no definite answer. Every time anyone goes there it seems to be in a state of spring or summer, but to my mind it would be unnatural for any part of the Land to be perpetually in one season, and Andelain is really the pinnacle of everything that's natural.

To return briefly to the original topic...the EZboard was archived for quite a while, so the first post could have been located. The archive is, however, long since gone. I know my first post was November 2001, and the board was 12-18 months old at that point.

There were half a dozen members.

And no-one had multiple identities.

Post by **jwaneeta** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 1:37 am

CovenantJr wrote:
I'm not 100% certain, but I am reasonably sure that no mention is ever made of Forestals starting out as Unfettered. In fact, I'm 90% certain Forestals are entirely non-human. I don't have my books to hand though, so I can't quote you anything.

This is Atiaran giving Covenant the 411 on Unfettered Ones in LFB, p. 171:

Some delve into the earth to uncover the secrets of the Cavewights, others learn the lore of the Demondim - whatever knowledge guides the One's private prophecy. I have even heard it whispered that some Unfettered follow the legend of Caerroil Wildwood of Garroting Deep, and become Forestals. But that is a perilous thought, even when whispered.

My problem is that I can't make head or tails out of what she's trying to say, beyond a hazy notion that there were legends that made human Unfettered think they could cut it as Forestals. Maybe.

It'd be better to put those kind of questions in the Covenant forum, if for no other reason than to make the answers easy to find for newer people. The Covenant forum is basically for anything in the Covenant books pre-Runes of the Earth.

Right ho! Off I toddle, dragging my kit bag of nagging minor questions. Thanks for the Andelain answer, btw. More on that over there.

Post by **CovenantJr** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 1:42 am

jwaneeta wrote:
Some delve into the earth to uncover the secrets of the Cavewights, others learn the lore of the Demondim - whatever knowledge guides the One's private prophecy. I have even heard it whispered that some Unfettered follow the legend of Caerroil Wildwood of Garroting Deep, and become Forestals. But that is a perilous thought, even when whispered.
My problem is that I can't make head or tails out of what she's trying to say, beyond a hazy notion that there were legends that made human Unfettered think they could cut it as Forestals. Maybe.

Well well. That rings a bell now I come to read it. I interpret that much as you do; that some unfettered feel driven to attempt the work of Forestals, but since even the Lords are pretty terrified of Forestals, this is probably something they prefer not to think about.

Post by **Avatar** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 3:56 am

For what it's worth, The Hangar is on EZboard still, and doesn't have any pop-ups or other annoying things.

--A

Post by **CovenantJr** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 2:21 pm

Perhaps EZboard has improved then. It was certainly a hideous monstrosity back in the day.

Post by **matrixman** » Thu Sep 07, 2006 3:12 pm

IMO, the Hangar is still not quite as user-friendly as the Watch, and all the funky colours make it sometimes hard to see the text, but at least it's running smoothly and suffers no internal server errors like the Watch these days.

Post by **Avatar** » Fri Sep 08, 2006 4:16 am

I'll agree about the user-friendliness, it's taken me a while to get the hang of it, and some of it still seems counter-intuitive, especially since I'm so used to this.

The colours though, we're working on.

(And if you have particular problems, say so and we'll find a solution.

--A