Vains Command

Post by **Gil galad** » Sun Oct 05, 2003 2:42 pm

Did covenant make his best use of the one command he gave vain?

He could have commanded vain to take him to the heart of melenkurion skywier or anything so i cant help but feel that covenant, like Elena wasted his 1 turn at having power of command.
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What yould you command vain to do if he was gonna be your genee

Post by **Seafoam Understone** » Sun Oct 05, 2003 3:01 pm

Way I read it... Covenant panicked and used the command when running like hell would've sufficed.

What I would've done if I had Vain? Depends upon the situation. I mean ripping attacker's faces off was pretty cool. That'd be something to see in the proposed movie wouldn't it..

Vain's command would've been useful in so many situations. Problem was I think TC (or any of us) knew exactly what all Vain was capable of. So without that knowledge... application of Vain's capabilities would be a waste.

Post by **Fist and Faith** » Sun Oct 05, 2003 3:34 pm

Maybe commanding Vain to tell what his purpose was?

Post by **Landwaster** » Sun Oct 05, 2003 3:36 pm

Or commanding him to respect the command no matter whether its already been used.

Post by **kevinswatch** » Sun Oct 05, 2003 3:44 pm

^Haha. I doubt SRD would resort to the "Wish for more wishes" joke.-jay

Post by **Landwaster** » Sun Oct 05, 2003 3:47 pm

Well its worth a try

Post by **Fist and Faith** » Sun Oct 05, 2003 3:58 pm

I wonder if you'd forfeit your command if Vain refused to obey it.

Post by **Landwaster** » Sun Oct 05, 2003 4:41 pm

Was JUST thinking that!

Post by **Skyweir** » Sun Oct 05, 2003 5:15 pm

could he refuse to obey it?

he was programmed to obey one command .. so presumably no matter what it was .. he was bound to obey it.

but not if it was kill LA

cos that would cause programme conflict and force him to explode

Post by **Landwaster** » Sun Oct 05, 2003 5:29 pm

I doubt he could refuse to obey, but he COULD fail to carry out an order. I keenly remember one moment where he needed help to survive ... umm oh yeah getting out of Elemesnedene with Elohim chucking stuff at him, and something about him using two Bloodguard to hoist him somewhere.

So he'd try ... he might fail, but he'd try.

Post by **Skyweir** » Sun Oct 05, 2003 5:44 pm

mmm .. Vain failing .. mmm .. *thinks deeply stewing over this new concept*

well i guess he could have been slaughtered/destroyed too maybe .. that would've put the kybosh on that

Post by **Landwaster** » Sun Oct 05, 2003 6:00 pm

I'm sure he could have been unmade, cause he actually once had an expression of 'please help, I probably won't survive this'.

Post by **Skyweir** » Sun Oct 05, 2003 6:33 pm

unmade .. yes! I can see that

Post by **Gil galad** » Sun Oct 05, 2003 10:19 pm

even vains mightyness is limited by the fact that he is constucted purely from lore and is constrained to act within that lore

Post by **Revan** » Sun Oct 05, 2003 11:02 pm

I would have made him obey my every command. Like "Vain do what I say forever."

Post by **Seafoam Understone** » Sun Oct 05, 2003 11:44 pm

First Mark Tuvor wrote:I would have made him obey my every command. Like "Vain do what I say forever."

cheater cheater pumpkin eater...

Post by **Skyweir** » Mon Oct 06, 2003 2:39 am

jedi_gms wrote:even vains mightyness is limited by the fact that he is constucted purely from lore and is constrained to act within that lore

very true

Post by **Han-shan** » Mon Oct 06, 2003 1:05 pm

Indeed. Every power sets its own limits.

Post by **Landwaster** » Mon Oct 06, 2003 1:06 pm

Wouldnah worked, Tuvor ... you forgot the 'Nekrimah' bit.

Post by **dlbpharmd** » Mon Oct 13, 2003 11:13 pm

The best thing about the use of the command (during the escape from Stonemight Woodhelvin) is the timing. If he hadn't gotten that out of the way early, we would have read the books wondering "when is he going to command Vain?"

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