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Usivius wrote:Yah, Val does a great job, but I really think Kurt Russell is underrated in this film. He does a great job, but is often overlooked because his character is more introverted, and Doc's is more extrovert. Russell does a great job!

And Encryptic, if you liked the Fist full of Dollars/Few Dollars More, etc... check out the original: Yojimbo (a Japanese samurai pick based upon teh old western ideas) ... and it's sequal, Sanjuro (my fave). The Samuari With No Name... Toshiro Mifune is excellent!
You're the second person to tell me I should watch Yojimbo after I mentioned watching the Dollars trilogy (on a different forum...). ;)

I liked Kurt Russell's performance as well.

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Elfgirl wrote:Fistful of Dollars
Hang 'Em High
The Outlaw Josey Wales


anything with Clint Eastwood basically! :P
Now there ya go! Josey Wales is probably the best Western ever.

My list also includes:

Pale Rider
High Planes Drifter
She Wore a Yellow Ribbon
Once Upon a Time in the West

and the made for tv western "Conagher".
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I have and odd question re: Wyatt Earp...while I really liked Costner and Quaid...I was watching it on TV last night but missed part of the ending, due to my internet backgammon game and kids running amok, did they ever actually SHOW the shootout at the OK Corral or just assume that everyone knew what happened? :?
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Heh....I've been unable to sit through that movie.
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I'm kinda starting to agree...I saw it before Tombstone so liked it for that at the time-too heavy on the relationships, Powers Booth blows this Johnny Ringo away and no OK Corral? Or am I still mistaken, and, as well :P
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Never seen it, so can't tell you. Reading through this thread again, I see Dlb mentioned the series Lonesome Dove.

I gotta say that I gave that one top marks for historical accuracy. Everything was right for the time period and area, from the guns to the reins. Something you don't often see in things like that.

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I used to have Wyatt Earp on VHS but it's been years since I've seen it and I can't remember if the OK Corral scene is there or not.

I have the Eastwood/Leone spaghetti westerns on my DVR right now but just can't bring myself to watch them - are they really worth my time?
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Dear God yes DLB!

Danlo, Powers Boothe played Curly Bill, Michael Biehn played Johnny Ringo.
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C'mon people... has no one seen "My Name Is Nobody"..?
Or is it that no one has anything good to say about it?...
;) :lol:

It is one of my favourites to watch. I recognize it is not a "great movie", but it is fun to watch and Fonda's character is so honestly portrayed.
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Nope, haven't seen it.
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Dear God yes DLB!
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Thanks Cail! I stand corrected, in anycase the "bad" characters in Tombstone are much more compelling than Earp's, except for Indian Charlie, but he doesn't say all that much... :P
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I think I've said this before, but I believe that Tombstone is damn near the perfect Western. No, it's not completely accurate, but that's OK, it's not billed as a documentary. As much as I liked Unforgiven, Open Range, and The Outlaw Josey Wales, I think Tombstone stands above them. The performances are spectacular, especially Val Kilmer, the cinematography is stunning, and the story's compelling. Unforgiven may be a "deeper" film, but I know which one I choose to watch more often.

Just to gush here, I really can't say enough about Kilmer's performance in Tombstone. I think it's one of the strongest performances in any genre ever captured on celluloid, and it's a crime he wasn't even nominated for an Oscar. In fact, the whole cast (which is nothing but B-list actors and actresses) does a remarkable job, and it's a shame that they (and everyone else involved in Tombstone) didn't/don't get the recognition they deserve.
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You need to watch the Hi-Lo Country one of these days...thou I'm not even sure it's on DVD, pity...
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Nah, it's not.
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Definitely agree re: Tombstone and especially Val "I'm your huckleberry" Kilmer.
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Usivius wrote:C'mon people... has no one seen "My Name Is Nobody"..?
Or is it that no one has anything good to say about it?...
;) :lol:

It is one of my favourites to watch. I recognize it is not a "great movie", but it is fun to watch and Fonda's character is so honestly portrayed.
and I think the sequal was "My name is still Trinity" or something to that affect.
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Outlaw Josie Wales (Next fave)
The Unforgiven
The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
The Searchers (absolute fave)
El Dorado
Open Range
The Sacketts
The Cowboys
True Grit

(got a lot of John Wayne going there, but what the hey, he was the man)
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You know, it's funny, I never really got into the Wayne movies.
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