What is Thomas Covenant's ethnic origin?

Post by **aTOMiC** » Tue Nov 25, 2003 3:59 pm

I think his physical description and speech patterns sort of give TC away but I'm wondering what the rest of you think.

What was Covenant's middle name?
Who were his parents?
How many siblings did TC have?
What is his shoe size?
Boxers or briefs?
Favorite aftershave?
Hmmmm...

Post by **hierachy** » Tue Nov 25, 2003 4:09 pm

i really tried not to post in this topic, i told myself it wasn't worth it...but it just kept calling out myn name.. so, i think TC was American

he didn't have a middle name

his parents were called mum and dad

one sibling, who mysteriously went into a comma at an early age, he was called Berek

his shoe size is 10, (english shoe size that is)

tch...boxers

aftershave...im not sure he even wore aftershave

Post by **dANdeLION** » Tue Nov 25, 2003 6:52 pm

You forgot one: What are the titles of his books?

Anyway, he's American, but as I already noted, there's no family information available. I think he wore briefs, and used Old Spice. Shoe size probably was 10 (American), and his middle name may have been mentioned, but I can't remember it. It should be on his utility bill, though

Post by **Seafoam Understone** » Tue Nov 25, 2003 7:00 pm

Well the fact that the description of the town that TC lived in and the mention of a sheriff and night club and so forth clearly indicates that Covenant was American... however I suspect that he was English (or at least UK) of descent because of his continual use of Bloody which is an Engrish idiom as in "I'm not your bloody Berek!" "Bloody Hell" and so forth.
His use of language and profanity is different; Hellfire! Damnnation! etc. I don't know of a lot of other people who use this type of language. But then again I still don't know everything now do I??

Post by **aTOMiC** » Tue Nov 25, 2003 7:03 pm

Since there have been repeated references to America and American I have to conclude that "Nationality" was a somewhat ambiguous or misleading part of my question. I have amended the original post better reflect my original intent.

Post by **aTOMiC** » Tue Nov 25, 2003 7:05 pm

MEGATON dAN wrote:You forgot one: What are the titles of his books?

Anyway, he's American, but as I already noted, there's no family information available. I think he wore briefs, and used Old Spice. Shoe size probably was 10 (American), and his middle name may have been mentioned, but I can't remember it. It should be on his utility bill, though

Wasn't one: "For I will sell myself for guilt." or some such clap trap?

Post by **dANdeLION** » Tue Nov 25, 2003 7:06 pm

You don't come from an ethnic origin; that's not proper english. You should once again edit your title to say "What is Thomas Covenant's ethnic origin?", which I would be inclinded to say "Anglo-Saxon".

Post by **aTOMiC** » Tue Nov 25, 2003 7:08 pm

MEGATON dAN wrote:You don't come from an ethnic origin; that's not proper english. You should once again edit your title to say "What is Thomas Covenant's ethnic origin?", which I would be inclinded to say "Anglo-Saxon".

Ah. The grammar Nazi rears his ugly head again. Okay then smart guy. Just for you I wll amend my post once again. Happy? I'm sure you are.

Post by **dANdeLION** » Tue Nov 25, 2003 8:01 pm

I'm no Nazi. I'm half-Nazi, and the other half Anglo-Saxon, just like Covenant. Hellfire and damnation! You think you'd remember that by now.

Post by **aTOMiC** » Tue Nov 25, 2003 8:08 pm

MEGATON dAN wrote:I'm no Nazi. I'm half-Nazi, and the other half Anglo-Saxon, just like Covenant. Hellfire and damnation! You think you'd remember that by now.

You don't really expect me to keep track of such things. I can't even remember what I had for lunch. Wait. Ravioli. Okay you win.

Post by **Roland of Gilead** » Tue Nov 25, 2003 8:38 pm

TC is a WASP, with the WASP's biblical fear of leprosy. He tries to hide it with a 20th century educated mindset, but it's there.

And I had a bologna sandwich for lunch.

Post by **danlo** » Tue Nov 25, 2003 8:55 pm

He was of Scottish descent of course! Hellfire has such a Protestant ring to it don't u think?

no I don't believe we ever learned his middle name, or LA's 4 that matter...

Post by **Nav** » Wed Nov 26, 2003 12:18 pm

Actually I'd have said hellfire and brimstone were more of a catholic thing. Don't make me go sectarian on your ass.

Bloody is such a British word, I think he must have at least one british relative. Probably from somewhere up north, as he'd be more likely to say 'cor blimey' if he was part Londoner. Off the top of my head I'll say his Grandmother was from Leeds.

Anyway, he's American. His accent is one of the reasons he sticks out in the Land, because the great law of fantasy is that everybody speaks BBC English

Post by **aTOMiC** » Wed Nov 26, 2003 12:32 pm

Navarino wrote: because the great law of fantasy is that everybody speaks BBC English

HAHAHAH!!! Great Kyle Katarn avatar, NAV.

Post by **danlo** » Wed Nov 26, 2003 3:42 pm

U ain't gonna go nowhere on my ass fool!

Protestant/Catholic it's all the same thing to me...being from "natural" (as opposed to the formal organisation) Druidic descent I could care less...but it's fun!

Penner Theologius Pott · Wed Nov 26, 2003 10:30 pm

A last name like "Covenant" would seem to suggest English descent, would it not? Unless he was descended from some immigrants with a very strange sense of humor...

Post by **Nav** » Thu Nov 27, 2003 2:08 pm

danlo wrote:U ain't gonna go nowhere on my ass fool! Protestant/Catholic it's all the same thing to me...being from "natural" (as opposed to the formal organisation) Druidic descent I could care less...but it's fun!

The simplest way to remember it is that protestants are catholics who have gone 'back to basics' and Catholicism is the faith that put the 'fear' into 'fear of God'.

Cromas Tummins wrote:HAHAHAH!!! Great Kyle Katarn avatar, NAV.

Thanks. I finally got a computer that can play Jedi Kinght 2, and Kyle's such a badass. Got the Av of the JK2 site, fits straight in.

Post by **aTOMiC** » Thu Nov 27, 2003 2:13 pm

Navarino wrote:Thanks. I finally got a computer that can play Jedi Kinght 2, and Kyle's such a badass. Got the Av of the JK2 site, fits straight in.

Fighting along side Luke was cool!

Post by **Nav** » Thu Nov 27, 2003 2:35 pm

I might have to put Jedi Academy on my Christmas list. Kyle and Luke are your instructors.

Post by **aTOMiC** » Mon Dec 01, 2003 2:57 am

Navarino wrote:I might have to put Jedi Academy on my Christmas list. Kyle and Luke are your instructors.

Very cool. I'll have to beg Santa (wife) to get it for me. Or I'll just run down to Best Buy on my lunch break. Either way.

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