What scene or character would you want to see the most?

Post by **Brasidas** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 7:25 am

Mhoram's victory or Haruchai vs Nom both top my list.

Post by **amanibhavam** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 8:15 am

I've yet to see a good rendering of Revelstone or Kevin's Watch. Would love to see how you visualize Coercri, or the arrival of the dromond. Melenkurion Skyweir. Amok's coming to Loresraat.

YouTube · Post by **Menolly** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 12:52 pm

Blackhawk wrote:
Menolly wrote:Yet we can dream of the day when good open source animation software is readily availble to those who have a talent for using it, and suggest the scenes we would most like to see...

And story boards would be a first step in creating those scenes, would they not?

It is available right now...there are some really expensive ones out there but Bryce and Poser ...Vue d'esprit and some others terragen..not sure if it does animation though..those are fairly low priced..but the downside is that to render just 20 seconds of clouds moving through the southern wastes background i made took my slower computer 18 straight days for just 20 seconds of moving clouds, but thats on my older G4 400. im going to see if i can get Nom to at least run with those backward legs i made. if i can make him run..then who knows.

mmhm

I have an online friend involved in 3-D modeling, and he says rendering is the most frustrating aspect for him, as he can do nothing until the program finishes running once launched. I am unsure of which program does what, but I know he mentions something called maya frequently. Do you use that as well?

Post by **aTOMiC** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 4:15 pm

Here is my artist's rendering of the scene when Covenant had been wrestling with the ur-vile under Mt. Thunder. This depicts TC after both fall over the edge of the ledge and he's laying with the wind knocked out of him.

Post by **wayfriend** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 5:12 pm

Beautiful. Perfect. But why is it spoilered?

Post by **Blackhawk** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 5:34 pm

I have an online friend involved in 3-D modeling, and he says rendering is the most frustrating aspect for him, as he can do nothing until the program finishes running once launched. I am unsure of which program does what, but I know he mentions something called maya frequently. Do you use that as well?

Yes...rendering is the most frustrating part..it takes so long.. rendering about 24 frames per second for decent video and each frame in high def or high quality can take up to 30 mins per frame, 1.2 hrs on my old machine, my machine at home is alot faster but does'nt show very much when it comes to 3d animation.

Unfortunately I dont use Maya because it Runs about $1600 US so thats alot more than i can afford for 3d software..but it is a great program...alot of High end Game developers and 3d modelers use it. Im very new to the creating characters etc with 3d apps like poser and im familiar with Bryce and a couple others but still learning alot as i go. I pretty much just jumped in with no teaching so im having to figure out what everything means and how it works.

aTOMiC wrote:

Here is my artist's rendering of the scene when Covenant had been wrestling with the ur-vile under Mt. Thunder. This depicts TC after both fall over the edge of the ledge and he's laying with the wind knocked out of him.

I needed that

but to me it looks more like the scene in the Brathairelm sandhold right after Linden gains Consciousness.

YouTube · Post by **Menolly** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 5:37 pm

From what I have seen of your work, to know you are self taught as well leaves me even more impressed.

Keep it up, Blackhawk.

Post by **amanibhavam** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 8:28 pm

Blackhawk: ever tried Blender? I am not a graphic artist but as I hear that software is quite impressive.

Post by **Blackhawk** » Mon Jun 16, 2008 9:20 pm

amanibhavam wrote:Blackhawk: ever tried Blender? I am not a graphic artist but as I hear that software is quite impressive.

Thanks Menolly

and thanks to you too Amanibhavam..Im looking at this software right now and it looks like what i was missing.. i have programs to create environments and characters but nothing for creating new items or 3d objects which are outside my other programs abilities that i know of. Thankyou again for this info... hopefully its just what i was looking for.

Post by **deer of the dawn** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 2:35 pm

A scene in Runes made me want to get back into sketching. It's after a battle, Linden slumps to a crouch, holding the Staff but with her limp hand resting on the ground holding Jeremiah's race car. She is covered with blood and surrounded by strange creatures, living and dead on the ground, but she just gazes at the race car.

Post by **rusmeister** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 5:24 pm

Lord Mhoram's Victory.

Music for that: John Williams "Rebels at Bay from 'the Empire Strikes Back' soundtrack.

Post by **Blackhawk** » Tue Jun 17, 2008 5:43 pm

deer of the dawn wrote:A scene in Runes made me want to get back into sketching. It's after a battle, Linden slumps to a crouch, holding the Staff but with her limp hand resting on the ground holding Jeremiah's race car. She is covered with blood and surrounded by strange creatures, living and dead on the ground, but she just gazes at the race car.

Please get back into sketching

I would love to see that moment. you give detail that would be a great sketch or scene.

Post by **Mr. Broken** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 2:13 pm

I guess I would like to see the scene from the Second Chronicles, where Covenants party first encounters the Search, that exchange of blows between Haruchai, and giant, and the look on the giants face.

Post by **Kevin164** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 9:46 pm

Mhoram's Victory it is.

Post by **Kevin164** » Sun Jun 22, 2008 1:01 am

Ok here's the first sketch for the Victory piece.

homepage.mac.com/kevin164/.Pictures/Inked/Mvictory.jpg

Post by **Blackhawk** » Sun Jun 22, 2008 7:38 am

Kevin...Great Work!!!! the giant ..everything is great...it fits the description perfectly..at least from what I remember, and the Immense beasts blocking the retreat but not attacking. you have a very good minds eye for detail..from the way I see things anyhow...
Keep it up,

Post by **rusmeister** » Sun Jun 22, 2008 7:46 am

Very good work - much better than anything I would produce.

However, Mhoram seems rather indistinct - a little hard to make him out from that vantage point. Also, I guess it's hard to capture both critical points - Mhoram revealing the light in the krill AND gutting SF with it.
Just trying to be helpful!

Post by **Kevin164** » Sun Jun 22, 2008 1:45 pm

All part of being an artist. You draw, you starve, and you re-draw.

Thanks Black Hawk. I am working on three different plates. One will be the background, which will consist of the hilltops and foliage surrounding the battleground. The third plate is the various spawn and creatures in battle: I'm not looking forward to that one. The last plate will be basically a better rendition of that sketch of Mhoram and Satanfist. When finished it should look pretty good when combined. Crosses fingers.

Post by **Rocksister** » Sun Jun 22, 2008 9:47 pm

Covenant's open arms in the caamora fire, welcoming the damned souls of the Grieve for redemption and peace. WOW

Covenant's meeting with the Dead in Andelain, in WGW, where he is on his knees in front of them. WOW again

The scene where the First and Pitchwife see Revelstone for the first time and are moved to tears and unable to articulate what they feel.

Nom bowing to Covenant.

A hundred Ranyhyn rearing to Covenant.

Trell destroying the Close in fire and apocalypse.

Mhoram stabbing the Raver-Giant in the war on Revelstone, and his hands melting away.

Elena's horserite initiation, as told to TC.

Covenant walking on Glimmermere to retrieve the krill. I know it has been done, but could be better.

Troy's transformation

Marid. Wow..........

I could name a thousand things. If I had to choose only ONE, it has to be the first one on my list. And the spirits that are shown IN the fire have to be uplifted with joy and transcendance, floating away on the night breeze above the flames. Covenant's face streaked with tears, the Giants laughing and crying all at once. Emotional overload.......... Awesome. I can hardly wait to see what you decide to do.

Post by **kevinswatch** » Sun Jun 22, 2008 11:18 pm

Kevin164 wrote:Ok here's the first sketch for the Victory piece.

homepage.mac.com/kevin164/.Pictures/Inked/Mvictory.jpg

Daaamn. Sweet!

Just to add another cool scene to add to the list (I'm not sure if it's been said), but the rending of the raver by Grimmand Honninscrave and Nom.

It's mainly been on my mind since they mention the scene so much in the Last Chronicles. An awesome scene nonetheless, though.

But awesome work with Lord Mhoram's Victory.-jay