Several times I asked myself, why am I watching this? It seems to be going somewhere, but can I really stand to see Winona Ryder trying to look 25 again? or Woody Harrelson in that awful wig??
The ending was so moving, it made it all worthwhile. And I guess the film derived cred for me from the "in memoriam" trailer section.
I don't think I liked the visual effect. What did anyone think of the film?
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It's not CG, it's rotoscope animation. Animators literally trace over real film. That makes the animation seem really uncanny and smooth. I thought it was a wonderful film, and the closest anyone has come to expressing Dick's style visually. (Awesome as Total Recall, Blade Runner, and Minority Report were)
Haven't bothered. Love the book, hate the style of the movie, can't imagine that it manages to capture any of the book's impact.
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I tried to watch it three times. Fell asleep all three times.
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One Dick fan to another, It really does.Cail wrote:Haven't bothered. Love the book, hate the style of the movie, can't imagine that it manages to capture any of the book's impact.
But then, I really like rotoscope animation, so hurm. (but I did frigging hate Waking Life, but it was mostly for narrative reasons. To be specific, the absolute absence of one.)
Well, I do love the Dick..... 
I'll have to give it a shot.
I'll have to give it a shot.
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I thought it was a great movie, though I'm not sure if there's really a point to it...
My wife hated it, of course. She just found it depressing.
My wife hated it, of course. She just found it depressing.
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I really like PK Dick as well. I have it from a reliable source that hardcore fans of Phillip K. Dick refer to themselves as "d*ckheads". I thought that my source was kidding but was quickly and adamantly assured that it is true. Regardless of the truth of that, I am glad that here at KW folks stick to names like THOOLAH and THOOOTP.The Dreaming wrote:One Dick fan to another, It really does.
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How do people I just met know what I read?
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I jumped in here thinking we were going to discuss the book!
I just love the book.. It's definitely in my top 10 books EVER. It's quirky, funny, crazy, amazing and entirely moving.. And I loved the movie as well.. There was some disparity between the book and movie (as 2 characters had been morphed into one) but nothing essential.
I can't believe Rigel thought there was no point to it.. Was he not watching? It had as valid and powerful a point as A Clockwork Orange.
Though I tried to get a friend to watch it one time but it wasn't the animation that put her off, it was Keanu Reeves.
I just love the book.. It's definitely in my top 10 books EVER. It's quirky, funny, crazy, amazing and entirely moving.. And I loved the movie as well.. There was some disparity between the book and movie (as 2 characters had been morphed into one) but nothing essential.
I can't believe Rigel thought there was no point to it.. Was he not watching? It had as valid and powerful a point as A Clockwork Orange.
Though I tried to get a friend to watch it one time but it wasn't the animation that put her off, it was Keanu Reeves.
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What would you say the point was, if you don't mind my asking?ninjaboy wrote: I can't believe Rigel thought there was no point to it.
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