dlbpharmd wrote:I also thought WGW was a good end to the series (and I hate Linden.) But, that doesn't mean I wasn't terribly sad to see it end.
It was an awesome end. An ending unlike any I'd read before. An ending that kept the Chrons right up there on my list of all time best books. An ending that was like a kick in the stomach.
The 3rd Chrons has probably robbed new readers of the power of that ending...afterall, as far as we knew then, that was it. And that gave it a lot of power.
CovenantJr wrote:Well, since I got bored of reading FR and stopped, I'm going to say no.
I struggled all the way through FR, and I'm gonna say "no" as well. We had a perfectly good ending with WGW. We now have two more books which really don't add much of anything to the story, and (for me, at least) haven't began to touch on what made the first 6-1/2 books so good.
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Cail wrote:We now have two more books which really don't add much of anything to the story, and (for me, at least) haven't began to touch on what made the first 6-1/2 books so good.
6 1/2 books? I don't follow. Did I miss something?
"There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." - PJ O'Rourke
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"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
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"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
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spoonchicken: Dear Dr.Donaldson......PLEASE tell me, that you DON'T go to kevinswatch.com & read some of the sillier stuff posted in there (epsecially by me!)
Is there "sillier" stuff posted on kevinswatch.com? You shock me. How is that possible? <grin>
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I ran across one of your responses to a July 2004 GI question concerning who the Creator is and was amazed at what you appear to be disclosing. Here's your quote:
"Having rid ourselves of those assumptions, we can then consider the possibility that the Land's "Creator" is Covenant himself (an act of imagination which he later shares with Linden); that--in a manner of speaking--both the "Creator" and the man in the ochre robe are Covenant's dopplegangers, externalized versions of aspects of himself."
Was this an attempt at crafty misdirection or should we take the clarification at face value? My guess (hope) is that the integrity of the Chronicles and ending remain.
Many, many congratulations on finishing the first draft of AATE!
"Crafty misdirection" or actual "clarification": are those my only choices? Can I pick both? Neither? Am I allowed to be overtly self-contradictory?
In the absence of comfortable alternatives, I'm going to avoid responsibility by insisting that the crucial words are "consider the possibility". If the Land is a dream/delusion, then OF COURSE Covenant is its Creator. But surely other possibilities also deserve consideration.
spoonchicken: Dear Dr.Donaldson......PLEASE tell me, that you DON'T go to kevinswatch.com & read some of the sillier stuff posted in there (epsecially by me!)
Is there "sillier" stuff posted on kevinswatch.com? You shock me. How is that possible? <grin>
(05/13/2009)
You know, I think there's a comment on spoonchicken's grammar in there somewhere.
aliantha wrote:Sillier than what? Huh? Dare one suspect that SRD has read "Flower of Doom"?
I somehow doubt that if he started reading FoD he would continue reading until the end.
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aliantha wrote:Sillier than what? Huh? Dare one suspect that SRD has read "Flower of Doom"?
I somehow doubt that if he started reading FoD he would continue reading until the end.
He would fall into despair and enact the Ritual Of Grammatical Desecration, which destroys all eBooks on the internet, causing that Genre to utterly pass from life and love and knowledge of Man.
I ran across one of your responses to a July 2004 GI question concerning who the Creator is and was amazed at what you appear to be disclosing. Here's your quote:
"Having rid ourselves of those assumptions, we can then consider the possibility that the Land's "Creator" is Covenant himself (an act of imagination which he later shares with Linden); that--in a manner of speaking--both the "Creator" and the man in the ochre robe are Covenant's dopplegangers, externalized versions of aspects of himself."
Was this an attempt at crafty misdirection or should we take the clarification at face value? My guess (hope) is that the integrity of the Chronicles and ending remain.
Many, many congratulations on finishing the first draft of AATE!
"Crafty misdirection" or actual "clarification": are those my only choices? Can I pick both? Neither? Am I allowed to be overtly self-contradictory?
In the absence of comfortable alternatives, I'm going to avoid responsibility by insisting that the crucial words are "consider the possibility". If the Land is a dream/delusion, then OF COURSE Covenant is its Creator. But surely other possibilities also deserve consideration.
(05/13/2009)
Ah, hence...The Last Dark
And I believe in you
altho you never asked me too
I will remember you
and what life put you thru.
~fly fly little wing, fly where only angels sing~
~this world was never meant for one as beautiful as you~
...for then I could fly away and be at rest. Sweet rest, Mom. We all love and miss you.
I ran across one of your responses to a July 2004 GI question concerning who the Creator is and was amazed at what you appear to be disclosing. Here's your quote:
"Having rid ourselves of those assumptions, we can then consider the possibility that the Land's "Creator" is Covenant himself (an act of imagination which he later shares with Linden); that--in a manner of speaking--both the "Creator" and the man in the ochre robe are Covenant's dopplegangers, externalized versions of aspects of himself."
Was this an attempt at crafty misdirection or should we take the clarification at face value? My guess (hope) is that the integrity of the Chronicles and ending remain.
Many, many congratulations on finishing the first draft of AATE!
"Crafty misdirection" or actual "clarification": are those my only choices? Can I pick both? Neither? Am I allowed to be overtly self-contradictory?
In the absence of comfortable alternatives, I'm going to avoid responsibility by insisting that the crucial words are "consider the possibility". If the Land is a dream/delusion, then OF COURSE Covenant is its Creator. But surely other possibilities also deserve consideration.
(05/13/2009)
Ah, hence...The Last Dark
Since TC is dead one would think the dream/delusion would end, at least if SRD wants to be consistent. So is the Land now LA's dream/delusion?
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Orlion wrote:Or it was always Linden's delusion Ha, yeah right, I think that question has dropped out of the series forever and will never be brought up again...
The question was dropped after the first series. However, it came up in the GI.
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