chef's prerogatives
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chef's prerogatives
You're cooking dinner tonight - what do you expect in return, while you're prep-ing and cooking?
Here's mine......
1. No interference, no comments! Not even well-meant ones.
2. My choice of music in the kitchen, no complaints that it's too loud.
3. Someone else deals with callers or phone calls.
4. A glass of wine.
5. The core of the broccholi stem, to nibble on.
6. Disks of chorizo to nibble on.
5 & 6 obviously depend on what's cooking. I still feel I'm missing out though - anybody got any others?
Here's mine......
1. No interference, no comments! Not even well-meant ones.
2. My choice of music in the kitchen, no complaints that it's too loud.
3. Someone else deals with callers or phone calls.
4. A glass of wine.
5. The core of the broccholi stem, to nibble on.
6. Disks of chorizo to nibble on.
5 & 6 obviously depend on what's cooking. I still feel I'm missing out though - anybody got any others?
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Cooking in Vader's kitchen is a bit like a live show. I like "communicative" cooking. My guests are welcome to join and watch me in my open kitchen and I'm always ready to explain what I'm doing (and why) or just have small talk - provided they don't stand in my way (to answer your question what I expect while cooking).
And I don't like chorizo. The overload of spices usually kills the taste of the meat and everything else it's being served with. I prefer Italian salsiccia.
And I don't like chorizo. The overload of spices usually kills the taste of the meat and everything else it's being served with. I prefer Italian salsiccia.
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Being a mom, I guess I learned to not have any prerogatives while cooking. Having a baby or toddler to tend while also cooking took any thoughts to the contrary away. And having a husband who was willing to watch him when he wasn't away at work helped, but that was the exception, not the rule.
My only expectation is to have a clean kitchen to work in with everything well stocked and in its place. If Hyperception or Beorn fix something for themselves, then they must set things back to rights when finished. Other than that, I can work around just about anything.
Being a mom, I guess I learned to not have any prerogatives while cooking. Having a baby or toddler to tend while also cooking took any thoughts to the contrary away. And having a husband who was willing to watch him when he wasn't away at work helped, but that was the exception, not the rule.
My only expectation is to have a clean kitchen to work in with everything well stocked and in its place. If Hyperception or Beorn fix something for themselves, then they must set things back to rights when finished. Other than that, I can work around just about anything.
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Ditto, for the same reason. I like a clean work area, but everything else is negotiable.Menolly wrote:Being a mom, I guess I learned to not have any prerogatives while cooking.
Actually, I would welcome kibbitzers. I'd put 'em to work.
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^ what she said ^aliantha wrote:Actually, I would welcome kibbitzers. I'd put 'em to work.
But I do love teaching and sharing my recipes and methods...
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I can leave dirty plates and bowls in the dishwasher over night no problem. The one thing that needs to be cleaned immediately after use are my pots and pans, the gas oven and my knives. I always hand wash them right after using them and never put them in the dish washer.Menolly wrote:My only expectation is to have a clean kitchen to work in with everything well stocked and in its place.
And I love cooking with my daughter. Leah is 4 years old now but she can chop things like a pro. I always give her a real knife (and I'm also always close to her) and I told to always check where the blade is an where her fingers are. It's amazing how skillful she can use the knife.
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Oh yes, if the dishwasher is not full enough to run, this is a given.Vader wrote:I can leave dirty plates and bowls in the dishwasher over night no problem. The one thing that needs to be cleaned immediately after use are my pots and pans, the gas oven and my knives. I always hand wash them right after using them and never put them in the dish washer.
Definitely.Vader wrote:And I love cooking with my daughter. Leah is 4 years old now but she can chop things like a pro. I always give her a real knife (and I'm also always close to her) and I told to always check where the blade is an where her fingers are. It's amazing how skillful she can use the knife.
But there is a big difference between baby and toddlers and a pre-schooler. Especially when one's child is on the autism spectrum. But Beorn is getting there. Leah is probably far more skilled than Beorn right now, but he will be able to fend for himself, and fend well, by the time he leaves for college.
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Re: chef's prerogatives
1. If I'm preparing something special (like that fancy asian soup I did a while back ), I prefer not to be interrupted - I am happy to talk with someone, but there's no guarantee I'll listen to them.
2. My choice of music, although I'll probably try and be conservative and please all.
3. Yes, definitely (re phone calls)
4. A bottle of wine
5. Bikkies and dip
6. Enough space to work in - a clean kitchen to start with. If I'm making something that goes in the oven or requires simmering, I'll try and clean up as I go.
7. Sharp knives!
2. My choice of music, although I'll probably try and be conservative and please all.
3. Yes, definitely (re phone calls)
4. A bottle of wine
5. Bikkies and dip
6. Enough space to work in - a clean kitchen to start with. If I'm making something that goes in the oven or requires simmering, I'll try and clean up as I go.
7. Sharp knives!
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My only expectation is that once dinner is served, everyone stops what they're doing and eats while it's hot.
I get quite frustrated if the meal I've somewhat lovingly prepared is left to grow cold while people just finish the last bit of washing, or wait till the Simpson's end, or get to that next elusive save point in Gears.
I get quite frustrated if the meal I've somewhat lovingly prepared is left to grow cold while people just finish the last bit of washing, or wait till the Simpson's end, or get to that next elusive save point in Gears.
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Jeez, you guys are demanding. I cook dinner a lot. I treat it like anything else- I take off my shirt and I deal with it.
I appreciate it when I don't have to clean anything, but that's rare. Generally, I rinse plates and fill the dishwasher but don't scrub anything.
That's a great thing BTW. When my wife mentions cleaning type jobs, I tell her I'll hire someone and she then does it. I don't mow or scrub anything. Don't get me wrong, I'll fix anything I can and I do my share, but to me it's worth a few bucks to not deal with some nominal chores. My wife disagrees, so she does it. As the major breadwinner, this doesn't bother me a bit. Because I really would rather pay for it than do it myself.
I appreciate it when I don't have to clean anything, but that's rare. Generally, I rinse plates and fill the dishwasher but don't scrub anything.
That's a great thing BTW. When my wife mentions cleaning type jobs, I tell her I'll hire someone and she then does it. I don't mow or scrub anything. Don't get me wrong, I'll fix anything I can and I do my share, but to me it's worth a few bucks to not deal with some nominal chores. My wife disagrees, so she does it. As the major breadwinner, this doesn't bother me a bit. Because I really would rather pay for it than do it myself.
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It's the 'treat it like anything else-' part that gets me. I now have an image of a topless Harbinger performing any number of household chores running through my head. Ye Gods.
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I meant that figuratively, but your comments made me realize that I do tend to lose my shirt from time to time. I remember in college a friend of Malik's and mine said, "Dude do you hate shirts or do you just love your body that much?"
Back then it elicited lots appreciation from from women and a little jealousy I'm sure from some guys. Now, I have a little beer gut and I don't allow myself to tan like I used too. It probably is a horrible thing for you guys to contemplate. Sorry for the imagery.
EDIT: Also I don't shave my arms and keep my chest closely trimmed anymore either. And I have a few stray hairs invading my back.
Back then it elicited lots appreciation from from women and a little jealousy I'm sure from some guys. Now, I have a little beer gut and I don't allow myself to tan like I used too. It probably is a horrible thing for you guys to contemplate. Sorry for the imagery.
EDIT: Also I don't shave my arms and keep my chest closely trimmed anymore either. And I have a few stray hairs invading my back.
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Re: chef's prerogatives
Pretty much just this one, and it's bafflingly difficult for some people to manage. My last girlfriend has never mastered the art of not 'advising' during cooking. She was here the other night (we're on ok terms at the moment) and kept chiming in with "When I cook that..." etc. It makes me want to retort "Well feel free to go to your kitchen and cook it for yourself then. In the meantime, I'll be eating my dinner."Stonemaybe wrote:1. No interference, no comments! Not even well-meant ones.
Grrr.
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No, no, CovJr. What you should've done is to step aside and say, "Feel free to carry on, then, while I have a cup of tea."
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No, see, it's reverse psychology, in a way. When you say, "Feel free to take over," then the other person is likely to say, "Oh no! I didn't mean to imply..." which is when you then get to reply, "Then sit down and be quiet and let me do this my way."
Same as dealing with a backseat driver: "Do *you* want to drive?" "Oh, no, I didn't mean that!" "Then shut up!"
Same as dealing with a backseat driver: "Do *you* want to drive?" "Oh, no, I didn't mean that!" "Then shut up!"
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