Thinking more about this (er, because this is a complex issue!) I ultimately would be happier in spring than in autumn. Like you said, spring is about rebirth, the promise of renewal, and the long days of summer. I still love the fall season, but really just for the colors - and being able to enjoy that entirely depends on the weather being cooperative. Here, sometimes autumn is so wet and windy that a) there's little foliage left to see, and b) it's so crappy outside that you're more likely to be too miserable to be taking in the scenery.StevieG wrote:Well, I do love Autumn (as us heathens down under call it) too. But, of course, it precedes winter, the days get shorter etc. Late autumn brings with it a sense of foreboding.
Spring isn't as settled as Autumn, but it precedes summer, and everything is budding and growing. And where I'm from, it means long daylight hours. We don't get snow, so no dirt and melted snow issues
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matrixman wrote:Thinking more about this (er, because this is a complex issue!)

It's official, we are now one hour more advanced - daylight savings is here (for 4 of 6 Aus states - excludes West Aus, who don't want it, and Queensland, whose cows can't cope apparently

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ah! I thought you were on the Watch a bit earlier than usual.StevieG wrote:It's official, we are now one hour more advanced - daylight savings is here (for 4 of 6 Aus states - excludes West Aus, who don't want it, and Queensland, whose cows can't cope apparently), and I'm one hour more sleep deprived!
So, when we go back to Standard time next month, our time gap will go from 15 hours difference to 16 hours difference?

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At least your cell kept you on track, Fist. Not like the old days, when no clocks changed automatically and if you forgot to change your clocks yourself, you were essentially screwed. 
I've been in time zone wonderland for the past couple of weeks. Spent a week in Hawaii, which is 5 hours behind Eastern time. Came home -- and forward those 5 hours -- for about a day and a half. Then hit the road for Colorado, passing through two time zones and thereby losing two hours. Got here last night -- and then the time change happened overnight. My body has no freakin' idea what time it is!
I set the clock in the car yesterday morning to Central time but didn't bother moving it to Mountain time, as I knew I'd just have to set the bloody thing forward an hour again today....

I've been in time zone wonderland for the past couple of weeks. Spent a week in Hawaii, which is 5 hours behind Eastern time. Came home -- and forward those 5 hours -- for about a day and a half. Then hit the road for Colorado, passing through two time zones and thereby losing two hours. Got here last night -- and then the time change happened overnight. My body has no freakin' idea what time it is!

I set the clock in the car yesterday morning to Central time but didn't bother moving it to Mountain time, as I knew I'd just have to set the bloody thing forward an hour again today....



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Yeah, it's daylight savings for us too. We now synchronize with the U.S. But it still feels too early in the year to me. Give me a couple of decades to get used to it.
Heh, I personally agree with Fire Daughter. The whole thing just messes up people and systems, like the computer program at our old office building that controlled when the front door unlocked in the morning.
Our neighbouring province Saskatchewan has it easy - it's the only place in the country that keeps standard time throughout the year.
Heh, I personally agree with Fire Daughter. The whole thing just messes up people and systems, like the computer program at our old office building that controlled when the front door unlocked in the morning.
Our neighbouring province Saskatchewan has it easy - it's the only place in the country that keeps standard time throughout the year.
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Here, Arizona still does, I believe. Part of Indiana did until the last year or so.matrixman wrote: Our neighbouring province Saskatchewan has it easy - it's the only place in the country that keeps standard time throughout the year.
Kind of a pain, though it only takes a couple of days to get used to. Only the ovens now don't automatically switch at my house.

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Yeah, the whole thing seems pretty stupid to me, too. I've always heard it was because of the farmers? Well, maybe it was needed back in the day. But we have electricity and stuff now, so just turned the damn lights on early in the morning.
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My understanding is that now daylight savings time is done, and was extended for the months of the year we follow it, because it is less expensive energy wise when we do, as daylight hours last longer in to the evening. Apparently not as much electricity is used in the morning hours while it is still dark, compared to the evening hours when it gets dark.
That being the case, why isn't daylight savings time then implemented year round?
That being the case, why isn't daylight savings time then implemented year round?

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An excellent suggestion! I would vote for that!Stonemaybe wrote:I think they should just decide to make it 2.30pm on a Saturday and keep it there.



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I think we have similar temps Av, but quite a different climate. Yours seems more sub-tropical, ours is drier (in my area anyway - there are vast areas of Oz that fit the Jo'burg climate), longer days in summer, shorter in winter. The differences are marked in summer and daylight saving happens for the 6 months of long daylight hours.
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