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Dang it Way; you're right! I believe they can stop making new questions now, fer cryin out loud. Part of me wonders if they are going to need another season to wrap things up; seems like they are spinning their wheels a bit too slow to answer all the questions in...what...the 4-5 hours left....

On a good note for me, a trip I am going on was finangled, so now it turns out that I will be home for the final 2 hour series ender! ;)
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There's no eathly way of knowing
which way this show is going
the suspense it isn't growing
it's even kind of slowing
a towel I will be throwing
or epithets bestowing
if details aren't foregoing
and awaited answers showing
my pique is past plateauing
and I suffer from unknowing
oh please they are so oweing
for the questions they've been sowing
I'm very easygoing
my expectations lowing
they could send me away glowing
if they pitch in and start rowing
and the doubt I'm undergoing
would melt like summer snowing!
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wayfriend wrote:There's no eathly way of knowing
which way this show is going
the suspense it isn't growing
it's even kind of slowing
a towel I will be throwing
or epithets bestowing
if details aren't foregoing
and awaited answers showing
my pique is past plateauing
and I suffer from unknowing
oh please they are so oweing
for the questions they've been sowing
I'm very easygoing
my expectations lowing
they could send me away glowing
if they pitch in and start rowing
and the doubt I'm undergoing
would melt like summer snowing!
This better win a Watchie this year! It's brilliant!
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wayfriend wrote:There's no eathly way of knowing
which way this show is going
the suspense it isn't growing
it's even kind of slowing
a towel I will be throwing
or epithets bestowing
if details aren't foregoing
and awaited answers showing
my pique is past plateauing
and I suffer from unknowing
oh please they are so oweing
for the questions they've been sowing
I'm very easygoing
my expectations lowing
they could send me away glowing
if they pitch in and start rowing
and the doubt I'm undergoing
would melt like summer snowing!
Spoilers about the rumored content of the May 11 Episode, no actual details of the plot or reveals, just the setting and characters involved
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Supposedly Ep 14 (May 11) is set in 28 AD, and the only regulars are Jacob and MiB. This episode, you would expect would get to the heart of their history. Then only 1 more episode the following week, and the Series finale 5 days after that.
And nobody forget, the Series Finale isn't on it's regularly scheduled Tuesday slot, it's Sunday May 23rd.
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Very good Way. I would add for my own end:

'cept for a few eps, this season is blowing!
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I still enjoy the fact the answers will come--sometime soon. Lost's ability to string along the viewers and be tantalizingly enigmatic is legendary. But yes; way too many filler episodes this season. I believe it's because they didn't have enough story/plot twists to cover all 18 episodes. Trim it down to 14 and we might've had one of the most consistently enjoyable 6 seasons of TV ever.

On the bright side: "What They Died For" sounds like one hell of an interesting episode. I get the feeling Smokey just may wind up killing everyone on the Island timeline and perhaps even Cloverfield-style kicking the entire world's ass? Hmmm...
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Well, last night was certainly filler material. The only spark was I was sufficiently distracted that the reunion scene caught me off guard, in a good way. And we have one "answer", about Jack's dad, tossed in like a small bone.

Sun getting her voice back. Seems like a pointless plot-line that fizzled away. Except ... I think it works towards building a theme, a theme that reunification will fix what's broken. Which obviously points to the timelines.

I'm getting confused about bad Locke's ability to know that Sawyer is stealing his boat but knows exactly where Jack will wash ashore.
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So, anyone else notice that this week's "mirror" moment was a little different? Jack didn't look at himself in the mirror, he looked at Locke.

Connections between characters interrupted for different connections. Jack and Claire meet, but Jack is called away to surgery on Locke. Sawyer and Kate sit down for a talk, Miles interrupts and they go to arrest Sayid.

Mostly a setup, move the characters around episode. Still, not a bad one.


Edit: Wayfriend, I think Jack happened to wash up at the rendezvous point.
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Not so great, though I thought it was kinda nifty that Locke ended up on Jack's table anyway, after deciding earlier to just live with the paralysis.

And I just assumed Jack swam to the rendezvous point on purpose...I mean, his decision was to go back to that group.

And about that spoiler above:
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Great...28 A.D....depending on who's dating you believe, that's either when Christ really begins his mission/trials, or around crucifixion time. I really hope they're not going there.
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heh. i love this thread.

i watch lost on wednesday nights (usually after raid) on graboid so i love to come to the thread on wednesday morning and find out tantalizing tidbits of what happened the night before and how you're all reacting to it! hee. fun! :lol:
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Oh, I forgot an important point. Sayid has switched sides again - I'm almost certain of it. Remember that alternate Sayid was too ashamed of his past to be with Nadia. I think Desmond opened his eyes.
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I think the little "episode previews" after each episode are more intense than the actual episodes themselves. I mean, that whole Willy Wonka song, the build-up, the feeling of culmination. It actually gave me chills on first viewing (maybe cause I have a big screen TV, heh); but yes, I thought, "Ah, finally, I see what they've been waiting to uncork."

Then the actual episode comes. SAME OLD STUFF. Even the things associated with the preview, once you see them in the actual episode, were flatter.

But I should've known that the previews make everything more exciting.

Still. Bleh.
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I never get to see the previews.
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Murrin wrote:Oh, I forgot an important point. Sayid has switched sides again - I'm almost certain of it. Remember that alternate Sayid was too ashamed of his past to be with Nadia. I think Desmond opened his eyes.
Which begs the question: is this "claiming" they talked about earlier in the season final, as Dogen seemed to think? If Sayid has switched, then it's not. If it is final, what would be Sayid's purpose in not doing BLocke's bidding, and lying about it?

Of course, that's assuming he didn't kill Desmond. Anyone think he did?
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Murrin wrote:Oh, I forgot an important point. Sayid has switched sides again - I'm almost certain of it. Remember that alternate Sayid was too ashamed of his past to be with Nadia. I think Desmond opened his eyes.
Heh...I forgot that, too...and I think you're correct, and I also HOPE you're correct...and related, there's a bit of a hint that Claire is re-thinking [though it could just be she's planning betrayal/revenge]
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What I was thinking going into the episode was that connecting Claire with her alternate self might be the route to restoring her to how she was before. But it seems they're angling to have her not be all bad on her own, and the allegiances not be so straightforward.

In the end, connecting the experiences will provide our characters with some much needed perspective.


Another thing that occured to me is that in the sideways reality, it's possible that Jack never had his miracle - he never had his chat with Desmond, after all, and that's what pushed him to gain some faith, when the next day his future wife realised she could feel her legs. Don't know if that will bear on events at all.
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Sayid and Claire both have a "disease" that will allegedly fill their souls with darkness. That's not to say that at the moment, there isn't anything human about them. Later on, when/if the disease progresses, this could be problematic for whoever happens to be around them.
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Yes, Sayed lied to Flock when he said he killed Des, and Flock lied to Jack when he said he was Christian; the look on Flocks face was an obvious lie-face, even Jack better have noticed that. But all else, yup, the biggest filler ep to date. The Jin-Sun reconnect wasn't as emotionally played as it could have been; it was a hurry up and get them togeather moment so we can point guns at the Losties again, scene.

Re the spoiler above,
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yes I thought the same thing re the reported date of the ep and also hope they don't go down that road of Jacob being Christ, an apostle, Judas or whatever, but I bet there is some connection as in Jacob or MIB are cursed Roman guards, a la the Casca Longinus series of fiction books. In those series of books Casca was a Roman guard who plunged his spear into the side of Christ on the cross and was then cursed to wander the world forever a soldier in battle. But I suppose if they used MIB as a Roman who was doomed by Christ, then that would be too close to plagerism...
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Kil Tyme wrote: and Flock lied to Jack when he said he was Christian; the look on Flocks face was an obvious lie-face, even Jack better have noticed that.
Oooooh...I must have been distracted from the screen...didn't notice Flocke's face...interesting if you're right...very.
Kil Tyme wrote: Re the spoiler above,
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yes I thought the same thing re the reported date of the ep and also hope they don't go down that road of Jacob being Christ, an apostle, Judas or whatever, but I bet there is some connection as in Jacob or MIB are cursed Roman guards, a la the Casca Longinus series of fiction books. In those series of books Casca was a Roman guard who plunged his spear into the side of Christ on the cross and was then cursed to wander the world forever a soldier in battle. But I suppose if they used MIB as a Roman who was doomed by Christ, then that would be too close to plagerism...
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I've heard of that though not read it, and I hope they don't use it. I think Jacob and MIB are both older than that...was thinking more in the lines of them being angel/devil, and involved in all the tests/temptations/turning of Judas, and the preceders back through time [like MIB said he had a crazy mother, so possibly related to Lilith and Adam...which has parallel stories in many of the religions from that area, older than Christianity, or Judeaism. I still don't want them to go near the Christ thing...it would be better if they went to testing Buddha, at least that's not used so often]
edited to fix spoiler tagging.
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Vraith wrote:
Kil Tyme wrote: and Flock lied to Jack when he said he was Christian; the look on Flocks face was an obvious lie-face, even Jack better have noticed that.
Oooooh...I must have been distracted from the screen...didn't notice Flocke's face...interesting if you're right...very.
Kil Tyme wrote: Re the spoiler above,
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yes I thought the same thing re the reported date of the ep and also hope they don't go down that road of Jacob being Christ, an apostle, Judas or whatever, but I bet there is some connection as in Jacob or MIB are cursed Roman guards, a la the Casca Longinus series of fiction books. In those series of books Casca was a Roman guard who plunged his spear into the side of Christ on the cross and was then cursed to wander the world forever a soldier in battle. But I suppose if they used MIB as a Roman who was doomed by Christ, then that would be too close to plagerism...
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I've heard of that though not read it, and I hope they don't use it. I think Jacob and MIB are both older than that...was thinking more in the lines of them being angel/devil, and involved in all the tests/temptations/turning of Judas, and the preceders back through time [like MIB said he had a crazy mother, so possibly related to Lilith and Adam...which has parallel stories in many of the religions from that area, older than Christianity, or Judeaism. I still don't want them to go near the Christ thing...it would be better if they went to testing Buddha, at least that's not used so often]
edited to fix spoiler tagging.
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I thinking there's got to be some Egyptian history going on, considering all the Egyptian stuff on the island, especially Smoky depicted next what looks like Anubis in Smoky's temple
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