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Zorm wrote:I must say that a Scandinavian, or anyone grown up reading the actual Norse mythology, cannot watch this with a straight face. I realize it's based on some American comic, but even so, thought they might have tried to insert a liiiitle bit more authenticity into it...
So Marvel's fiction doesn't match Norse fiction; I find myself not really caring.
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Geez you're nice... :P
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Well, it's not like any of it is real; Stan Lee's version is just as 'accurate' as Saxo Grammaticus's, in terms of reality.
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dANdeLION wrote:Well, it's not like any of it is real; Stan Lee's version is just as 'accurate' as Saxo Grammaticus's, in terms of reality.

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Od's blood! What vile treachery be this? Have at thee, knave!
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Hashi Lebwohl wrote:We understand your frustration; however, please remember that this movie is based solely from the Marvel comic book and not actual mythology, hence the...inaccuracies.
It's funny that a group of people who care as much about "accuracy" as comic book fans would be so tolerant of the bastardization of the original ;)
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Comic book fans typically aren't that concerned with source material, only the content of their favorite series. They may know--albeit only subconsciously--that Batman is really a mixture of Sherlock Holmes and The Shadow but they will get into knock-down-drag-out fights if someone gets some piece of esoteric trivia incorrect, forgetting the fact that he has been moving away from his detective roots over the last 20 years into nothing more than a martial artist in a black suit.

Comic books weren't meant to retell classic myths in their original or true forms; rather, they were meant to get the reader interested in looking into the source material for themselves. Oh, they were meant to generate revenue for the publishers, as well.
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:lol: I get back, and what do I see? A mile of discussion spawned by my little disapproval.

Eh, I tried to look up some info on the comic on the net afterwards, and just found myself going "Huh?". Mine's about the same as the reactions of my RL comrades who saw the film. Sorry, we're probably complete Norse mythology snobs up here, but since it's kind of a part of our cultural identity, it's hard to see a pretty, blonde Þórr bashing the daylights out of giant robots on the top of a skyscraper. :biggrin: ;) And, considering that Laufey is a girl's name, used even presently in the Nordic Countries, I now keep seeing King Laufey in my head going, "Loki, I AM YOUR MOTHER!!!" and movie-Loki answering, "NOOOOO!!!"

I can appreciate a good adaptation or retelling as much as anyone, however. And I can tolerate a measure of "bastardization", as long as the characters aren't rendered entirely beyond recognition. ;) As a personal guilt pleasure, I could mention Peter Madsen's Valhalla comic. It's mostly Astérix le Gaulois -type humor, so it often enough parodizes anything and everything.


(Also don't take this too seriously. ;) Didn't mean to cause a fight or anything.)
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A mile? Wow, talk about exaggeration.
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It did look like a mile in the tiny screen of my mobile phone.
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It was also revealed in the Celestial Sage, which ended with #300, that the current Thor of the comics is not the one of Norse mythology. That was the previous one. After Ragnarok, those who survived started things anew. And this Ragnarok will be different. Thor will Fight Loki, for example.

Now, of course, that was done away with in later tellings of the whole thing, just as it did away with previous tellings. Simonson's Odin's telling indicates he's a lot more like the one in Norse mythology, and it's really not possible to think he's the same one we're told about in the Celestial Saga.

But both stories are a lot of fun. As is the movie. Which, though largely based on the comic, is not the comic one by a long shot. Same as all the others who will be the Avengers.
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Thank goodness they revealed that in Thor 300, otherwise we'd never have......uhh, nevermind.
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