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It was down for a couple of days, but it's back up now.... in fact, it crashed when Luci started this thread... hmmm....Stonemaybe wrote:I can't connect to the Malazan forum. I suspect the bhok'aral have crashed it...
er....Orlion wrote:It was down for a couple of days, but it's back up now.... in fact, it crashed when Luci started this thread... hmmm....Stonemaybe wrote:I can't connect to the Malazan forum. I suspect the bhok'aral have crashed it...
i understand. i think "fantasy" is imprecise as well. so is "science" fiction for that matter. historical fiction is much more precise. but frankly, ALL fiction is just that to me. fiction.Avatar wrote:Ok, I can see that. I just think it's imprecise.lucimay wrote:exactly! thank you murrin, that's exactly what i meant. for me that single phrase is what fiction is all about, thus why i said all fiction is speculative.Murrin wrote:"What if" can cover a helluva lot of territory.
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oh i KNOW! i had actually written in that last post a long rambling luci rant about what i like to refer to as "the genre-fication" of fiction and "the canon" and whatnot but i decided i didn't want to blather on the topic so i deleted all of it. however, that's one of my pet peeves, that whole "literary" fiction thing.aliantha wrote:Somebody on a panel at WFC said he thought of literary fiction as another genre.I thought to myself, "I wouldn't say that in a roomful of MFA candidates, if I were you."
I may have misrepresented the argument. iirc he was trying to make the point that the Booker Prize goes to a certain type of novel only (what's known as 'literary fiction', ie, a 'detective' novel, or a 'fantasy' novel, won't get the prize)lucimay wrote:well then china mieville's got it wrong too! i mean more power to him that he was rippin the guy but i'm sorry, "literary" fiction is a redundancy. it's not a genre. what's it's conventions? that is HAS no conventions? here's a prize for all those stories that have no conventions! LOL! and here's a prize for all those stories that take place in space! and here's a prize for all those stories that take place in barbados! and here's a prize for all those stories that have magic in them! and here's a prize for all those stories that have detectives...oh wait, this story takes place in space and has magic and a detective....we'll make a prize for that too!!
just...absurd.
Stonemaybe wrote:I may have misrepresented the argument. iirc he was trying to make the point that the Booker Prize goes to a certain type of novel only (what's known as 'literary fiction', ie, a 'detective' novel, or a 'fantasy' novel, won't get the prize)lucimay wrote:well then china mieville's got it wrong too! i mean more power to him that he was rippin the guy but i'm sorry, "literary" fiction is a redundancy. it's not a genre. what's it's conventions? that is HAS no conventions? here's a prize for all those stories that have no conventions! LOL! and here's a prize for all those stories that take place in space! and here's a prize for all those stories that take place in barbados! and here's a prize for all those stories that have magic in them! and here's a prize for all those stories that have detectives...oh wait, this story takes place in space and has magic and a detective....we'll make a prize for that too!!
just...absurd.
wayfriend wrote:My favorite genre is "fictional fiction". But don't try to look that up - it's a fictional genre, too. The best thing about it is that the awards are fictional. "Or I Will Sell My Soul For Guilt" won a Fickie last year. No one objected.