Bigfoot

[High Lord Tolkien]

www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iwq1C5yUN4

[Zarathustra]

Some very interesting stuff in those links, RB. I'm thinking of purchasing the book Tribal Bigfoot. Thanks!

[Prebe]

My question is the same as Bob's: Where did they get the biological material? Why is that shrouded in mystery throughout?

Anyway:

You can not get DNA from hair.

Really? That means that a significant amount of the wobbers and wapists I have put away in my time could be innocent! Stop press!

No, seriously, I think I know what you mean. Getting dna of a quality sufficent for a full genome sequencing from just a hair with no folicle fragments is unlikely, I'd say.

[Obi-Wan Nihilo]

The smoke is beginning to build a bit.

[deer of the dawn]

There are lots of other possible DNA sources. Fecal matter often contains blood from the donor. Skin cells might have been gleaned when a sasquatch wounded itself. There is dna in saliva, boogers, semen, .... let's not go there, though.

He was working as a mascot for the defunct Seattle Sonics for a few years, you know. He was voted most popular mascot in the NBA more than once.www.youtube.com/watch?v=1l2i1PvyU4Y&feature=related

Spoiler

I know the guy's mother, actually. He's now playing a buffalo for the OK Thunder.

[Prebe]

There are lots of other possible DNA sources. Fecal matter often contains blood from the donor. Skin cells might have been gleaned when a sasquatch wounded itself. There is dna in saliva, boogers, semen

Thanks for the info. I'll try to keep that in mind

[Obi-Wan Nihilo]

Interesting blog:

frontiersofzoology.blogspot.com/2012/03/homo-sapiens-heidelbergensis-big-daddy.html

Homo Sapiens Heidelbergensis: Big Daddy Is Still Around

Since Tyler Stone has divided the Wildmen category up into a larger Homo (sapiens) heidelbergensis morph and a more normal-sized Homo (sapiens) neanderthalensis morph, and I basically was endorsing him on that I should add some further comments about that larger fossil type in connection to the possible identity for the EASTERN Bigfoot (Reconstruction of Heidelberg or Mauer man is on the left, probable inspiration for religious tract shown at top)


Above is a comparison of "Rhodey" an East Coast Bigfoot, artwork by Thomas Finley. I recognised a resemblance to a certain H. heidelbergensis reconstruction, pasted them together as a comparison and sent back a copy to him. There are probably dozens of such comparisons that could be made. This is in reference to the Eastern Bigfoot and not the West Coast Sasquatch.

I have an elaborate and thorough discussion on the over-arching category of Marked Hominids pos and then reposted here, and that category would include the Eastern Bigfoot types under discussion:
frontiersofzoology.blogspot.com/2011/08/cfz-repostdissection-of-and-discussion.html
As it says in that article (and as Tyler Stone has specified more recently) there seems no good reason to make separate species for both the large-morph and small-morph Wildmen, although they both go back to well-known fossil fossil forerunners.

Below is a Geographic chart I made up combining two different reference pieces on Heidelbergensis. The area was first colonised by Homo ergaster=Homo erectus and then Heidelbergers replaced erectus. In Europe, it is not demonstrated if erectus was ever present in any quantities to speak of, most of the remains of the period are Heidelbergers. Late examples of "Peking Man" also show striking similarities to Heidelbergers and it seems the population was in the process of a changeover from one to the other. First H erectus and then H heidelbergensis persisted longest in the Orient.


The Eastern Bigfoot is most like the fossil human Homo (sapiens) heidelbergensis, also known as "Archaic Homo sapiens" The reconstruction on the left is much like the Iceman and similar to some of Ivan Sanderson's reconstructions of this type. The skeletons at the right show how heidelbergensis was unusually large among the human ancestors, as also shown in the hominid "Lineups" such as the series of skeletons shown below. Homo (sapiens) heidelbergensis individuals were often six feet six at full height. Sis foot six would be about the Russian common estimate in height for the Boreal Bigfoot, two meters in height: because the Americans are not used to the metric system they will more usually say seven fet tal on average, which is also probably not as precisely correct for that reason . Their pelvises were also enormous, much larger than in modern humans

[Obi-Wan Nihilo]

Spookiness on top of spookiness: zfirelight.blogspot.com/2012/03/03-25-12-odd-disappearances-david.html

[Prebe]

he did observe that the DNA of children is more pure than adults

Amazing! And AGAIN I learn something new and valuable. If the internetz had been around when I went to university, I'm not even sure I would have bothered to go.

Jehovas Wittnesses once told me that the dna of Adam and Eve was more pure, and hence not subject to the negative effects of inbreeding. Once again, a little gem of knowledge that I have cherrished - no, nourished at my boosom - through my profesional career.

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--A

[wayfriend]

Bigfoot hoax ends in death, authorities say

(CNN) -- A man trying to create a Bigfoot hoax on a highway died after being hit by two cars, officials in Montana said.

Randy Lee Tenley dressed in a Ghillie suit -- camouflage designed to resemble heavy foliage -- and stepped out onto Highway 93 Sunday night, officials said.

"He probably would not have been very easy to see at all," said Jim Schneider, a state trooper. [link]

[Hashi Lebwohl]

I have never understood the whole Bigfoot phenomenon. Seriously--it isn't even a very good conspiracy theory.

[aTOMiC]

PROOF!

Ok. You know someone had to do this. It might as well be me.

[Hashi Lebwohl]

Overcompensation is a terrible thing.

[sgt.null]

i am certain that some primitive man-beast
would be able to evade capture of any sort
for all these many years. maybe bigfoot is
really db cooper?

[aTOMiC]

"Remember, it's up to us. Bigfoot is a crucial part of the ecosystem, if he exists. So let's all keep Bigfoot possibly alive for future generations, unless he doesn't exist. The end!"

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[sgt.null]

i believe that vermont put the
catamount on their endangered
species list. even though they
had no proof it still existed.
just in case though...

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Maybe Bigfoot ate DB Cooper....

--A

[sgt.null]

Maybe Bigfoot ate DB Cooper....

--A

now that is a story...

that someone else needs to write.

i'm working on something right now.

[Obi-Wan Nihilo]

www.nabigfootsearch.com/bigfootblog.html