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Website · Post by **Iolanthe** » Fri Apr 13, 2012 4:48 pm

Busy. Archives, then library, home, dinner, now off to Boston, temporary home of the Pilgrim Fathers, to give a talk on paupers, a subject with which I am entirely comfortable, unlike ebooks.

YouTube · Post by **Menolly** » Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:42 pm

Iolanthe, I admit I do not know British geography. Is there a Boston, England? Or are you currently visiting the state of Massachusetts here in the USA?

Website · Post by **Iolanthe** » Fri Apr 13, 2012 9:51 pm

Boston, Lincolnshire, England. I think you'll find that's where your Boston got its name from!

The Pilgrim Fathers were imprisoned in "my" Boston.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston,_Lincolnshire

Post by **Avatar** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:24 am

--A

Post by **lorin** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 9:28 am

Iolanthe wrote:Boston, Lincolnshire, England. I think you'll find that's where your Boston got its name from!

Nonsense! Everyone knows you got the name from the U.S.. We Americans are, after-all, the center of the universe.

Post by **I'm Murrin** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 9:45 am

My employer is opening a new factory here in (the original) Washington. The new head of the company decided it can't be called the Washington site because people will think it's in America...

Website · Post by **Iolanthe** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:30 am

lorin wrote:
Iolanthe wrote:Boston, Lincolnshire, England. I think you'll find that's where your Boston got its name from!
Nonsense! Everyone knows you got the name from the U.S.. We Americans are, after-all, the center of the universe.

Hmm. Interesting. Just looked at a map of Massachusetts. Found Boston, Lincoln

Bedford, Cambridge, Woburn, Winchester, Manchester, Chelsea, Weymouth, Gloucester, Newbury - the list goes on and on.

Also surprised to see that Jamestown is quite a long way from Boston. Apparently Jamestown was founded earlier (1607) than the arrival of the Pilgrim Fathers in MA (1620). I presume it was called Jamestown after King James 1 who was on the throne at that time (1603-1625). That must be some place to visit.

Post by **lorin** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:10 pm

Iolanthe wrote:
lorin wrote:
Iolanthe wrote:Boston, Lincolnshire, England. I think you'll find that's where your Boston got its name from!
Nonsense! Everyone knows you got the name from the U.S.. We Americans are, after-all, the center of the universe.
Hmm. Interesting. Just looked at a map of Massachusetts. Found Boston, Lincoln Bedford, Cambridge, Woburn, Winchester, Manchester, Chelsea, Weymouth, Gloucester, Newbury - the list goes on and on.

I agree, it is interesting but you Brits have got to stop stealing our names. Just stop it!

Post by **aliantha** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:25 pm

Iolanthe wrote:Also surprised to see that Jamestown is quite a long way from Boston. Apparently Jamestown was founded earlier (1607) than the arrival of the Pilgrim Fathers in MA (1620). I presume it was called Jamestown after King James 1 who was on the throne at that time (1603-1625). That must be some place to visit.

It's pretty cool, yeah -- I took the kids one time. Although the Jamestown site isn't as well developed as its neighbor, Colonial Williamsburg -- I've been there several times, mainly when I lived nearby in Norfolk (yet another name we stole from you guys

).

And yes, Jamestown was settled before Plymouth Colony. *And* we had the first Thanksgiving in Virginia, despite what those Yankees will try to tell you.

Website · Post by **Iolanthe** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:24 pm

Wish I could get to Boston USA and Jamestown for a visit. Still, I suppose there are plenty of interesting places in the UK that I haven't seen yet.

I thought the Civil War was a north/south thing, but Virginia is only just below PA (Pennsylvania?)and to the north east of that are the rest of the northern counties. But there is a huge area to the west that I presume was not involved in the 1860s as it was only just beginning to be populated. Please excuse my ignorance - most of my knowledge of your civil war comes from watching "Gone with the Wind"!! I do however have two soldiers that I am researching - one, originally from Shropshire, seems to have belonged to 2 Pennsylvania cavalry regiments, and the other I know nothing about except that he fought for the Yankees. Must do some reading up on this.

Post by **aliantha** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 7:30 pm

Iolanthe wrote:Wish I could get to Boston USA and Jamestown for a visit. Still, I suppose there are plenty of interesting places in the UK that I haven't seen yet.

I thought the Civil War was a north/south thing, but Virginia is only just below PA (Pennsylvania?)and to the north east of that are the rest of the northern counties. But there is a huge area to the west that I presume was not involved in the 1860s as it was only just beginning to be populated. Please excuse my ignorance - most of my knowledge of your civil war comes from watching "Gone with the Wind"!! I do however have two soldiers that I am researching - one, originally from Shropshire, seems to have belonged to 2 Pennsylvania cavalry regiments, and the other I know nothing about except that he fought for the Yankees. Must do some reading up on this.

Re your Civil War knowledge -- a lot of Americans are probably in the same boat as you are.

Yes, the Civil War was North v. South. And yes, Virginia is the "cradle of the Confederacy" -- a phrase which deserves another

IMHO (but then, I'm a transplanted Yankee who's lived here waaaay too long

).

Virginia and Pennsylvania are separated by Maryland and West Virginia. (W. Va. was actually part of Va. until the Civil War, when it split off and formed a separate state due to Va.'s pro-slavery stance.) The northernmost Southern states were Virginia (minus W.Va.) and Kentucky. I believe everything west of the Mississippi River was pretty much still territory -- although I guess there was a push in the years heading up to the war to grant statehood to various territories, depending on their slavery leanings.

Caveat: The only history course I took in college was journalism history (and I only took that because it was required for my major). So y'all feel free to correct me if I'm wrong about any of this....

Website · Post by **Iolanthe** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 8:48 pm

Thanks, Ali, I'll definitely have to do some reading, but not yet, or I shan't remember what I read when I get round to doing the research! Dreadful memory retention, always have had, although I can remember totally stupid unnecesarry things.

Post by **sgt.null** » Mon Apr 16, 2012 10:25 pm

just remember that New Hampshire is the single most important state and you are off to a good start.

Post by **Rigel** » Tue Apr 17, 2012 5:13 am

sgt.null wrote:just remember that New Hampshire is the single most important state and you are off to a good start.

And follow that up with Oregon having the most intelligent residents. After all, we've got medicial marijuana, and we don't recognize community property. That right there puts us above most other states

Post by **lorin** » Tue Apr 17, 2012 10:15 am

Rigel wrote:
sgt.null wrote:just remember that New Hampshire is the single most important state and you are off to a good start.
And follow that up with Oregon having the most intelligent residents. After all, we've got medicial marijuana, and we don't recognize community property. That right there puts us above most other states

so why are you leaving?

Post by **Rigel** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 3:11 am

lorin wrote:
Rigel wrote:
sgt.null wrote:just remember that New Hampshire is the single most important state and you are off to a good start.
And follow that up with Oregon having the most intelligent residents. After all, we've got medicial marijuana, and we don't recognize community property. That right there puts us above most other states
so why are you leaving?

To spread the good word?

Honestly, I'm going through a rough time right now, and I'm not sure what I'll end up doing. Part of my decision to leave is based on the fact that things suck right now... but then, a new city won't magically fix my life.

Truth be told, I might start on antidepressants soon.

Maybe the summer will cheer me up. Maybe medication will. Maybe I'll come out of this slump on my own. I just have no idea what's going to happen over the next few months.

Post by **Avatar** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 5:52 am

Rigel wrote:...a new city won't magically fix my life...

Glad you know that. Wherever you go, you're still there.

--A

Post by **lorin** » Fri Apr 20, 2012 9:51 am

Rigel wrote: Honestly, I'm going through a rough time right now, and I'm not sure what I'll end up doing. Part of my decision to leave is based on the fact that things suck right now... but then, a new city won't magically fix my life.

Geographical cures never worked for me. I think knowingthe root of the problem helps. I mean if you hate life in banking in Portland, you are going to hate life in banking in NY. On the other hand, if you hate life in banking in Portland, you may love life in NY has a theatre student. You get my point.

Truth be told, I might start on antidepressants soon.

they never worked for me, just kept me up all night. BUT I did lose some weight.

Maybe the summer will cheer me up. Maybe medication will. Maybe I'll come out of this slump on my own. I just have no idea what's going to happen over the next few months.

Perhaps a two month FLMA leave of absence to do some exploring is the ticket.

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