Watership Down
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Watership Down
I haven't read it for 25 yrs, but does anybody else rate this book?
I wouldn't call it a work of fantasy or sci-fi, obviously.
I would call it a kind of a cross between "The Guns Of Navarone", LOTR, and "1984".
I mentioned on another thread that "Lord Mhoram's Victory" was the most magnificent act of valour I have read.
I was telling my housemate (a Dragon-Lance kinda guy, bless him) about Watership Down the other day. It was quite embarassing when I almost broke down when I told him about Thlayli (Bigwig) telling Woundwort that his "Chief Rabbit" had told him to guard that post, so that's what he was going to do. That gets me almost as much as LMV.
That, and Hazel joining the Owsla of el-ahrairah at the end.
Pity the authors other books were of a faecal nature.
I wouldn't call it a work of fantasy or sci-fi, obviously.
I would call it a kind of a cross between "The Guns Of Navarone", LOTR, and "1984".
I mentioned on another thread that "Lord Mhoram's Victory" was the most magnificent act of valour I have read.
I was telling my housemate (a Dragon-Lance kinda guy, bless him) about Watership Down the other day. It was quite embarassing when I almost broke down when I told him about Thlayli (Bigwig) telling Woundwort that his "Chief Rabbit" had told him to guard that post, so that's what he was going to do. That gets me almost as much as LMV.
That, and Hazel joining the Owsla of el-ahrairah at the end.
Pity the authors other books were of a faecal nature.
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Watership Down should be categorized as a social commentary dressed up as an animal adventure. Plague Dogs, too (which I think is a notch better). It would go in the category as Lord of the Flies, IMO (and ... what's that one about the farm animals? "Animals"? "The Farm"? I forget the title...)
People compare it to LOTR because the rabbits have a mythology ... maybe that made it stand out once upon a time but these days there's nothing exceptional about such things.
People compare it to LOTR because the rabbits have a mythology ... maybe that made it stand out once upon a time but these days there's nothing exceptional about such things.
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I've watched the animated Watership Down but not read the book. I did read Shardik, which led to Grendel which, I think, gave me a certain side (or edge) to further appreciate Donaldson's writing in Reave the Just and Other Tales.
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Read the book, then watch the animation again - the book makes the dream sequences much more understandable and changes a rather sad & confusing ending in the animation into a happy and feel-good ending (IMHO)I've watched the animated Watership Down but not read the book
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I agree with the majority here - Watership Down is a masterpiece, and a very tough act to follow, which Adams attempted to do with varying degrees of success.
I think Brian Jacques should be dedicating his Redwall series to Adams, because without Watership Down, I don't think his series and enormous popularity would exist.
I think Brian Jacques should be dedicating his Redwall series to Adams, because without Watership Down, I don't think his series and enormous popularity would exist.
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sorry for not acknowledging your post on Plague Dogs, sounds like you enjoyed it as much as sgtnull.
The two of you seem to rate it as highly as WD , so I will definitely look out for it!
Anybody have comments on other favourite scenes?
Obviously the escape from Woundworts warren (the name of which escapes me at the mo, I really should get a copy and re-read, it's been 20 yrs) figures large, but if you'll excuse me I might mention a few of my favourites:
Woundwort: "Come back you cowards, it's only a dog!"
Dandelion and Blackberry (possibly my favourite character) leading the dog there in the first place.
Blackavar (is that the right name?) and his shredded ears being paraded as an example to those who would oppose Woundwort as they went out to feed.
The recruitment of Kehaar. Even Hazel thought what he was doing was odd. The Prince of a Thousand Enemies would have done the same, though.
Holly's story about what happened to their original warren. Hearing things second hand can have a powerful effect in a novel. (Runnik & Tull in The Illearth War, Gimli telling of the Black Ships in LOTR, Legolas IIRC didn't want to talk about it).
sgtnull: The Shining Wire is memorable, but in no way one of my favourite scenes. I'd imagine that was a pretty bleak song that you wrote *shivers*.
sorry for not acknowledging your post on Plague Dogs, sounds like you enjoyed it as much as sgtnull.
The two of you seem to rate it as highly as WD , so I will definitely look out for it!
Anybody have comments on other favourite scenes?
Obviously the escape from Woundworts warren (the name of which escapes me at the mo, I really should get a copy and re-read, it's been 20 yrs) figures large, but if you'll excuse me I might mention a few of my favourites:
Woundwort: "Come back you cowards, it's only a dog!"
Dandelion and Blackberry (possibly my favourite character) leading the dog there in the first place.
Blackavar (is that the right name?) and his shredded ears being paraded as an example to those who would oppose Woundwort as they went out to feed.
The recruitment of Kehaar. Even Hazel thought what he was doing was odd. The Prince of a Thousand Enemies would have done the same, though.
Holly's story about what happened to their original warren. Hearing things second hand can have a powerful effect in a novel. (Runnik & Tull in The Illearth War, Gimli telling of the Black Ships in LOTR, Legolas IIRC didn't want to talk about it).
sgtnull: The Shining Wire is memorable, but in no way one of my favourite scenes. I'd imagine that was a pretty bleak song that you wrote *shivers*.
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Hey, I never led a dog anywhere!
Dandelion don't tell no lies
Dandelion will make you wise
Tell me if she laughs or cries
Blow away dandelion
I'm afraid there's no denying
I'm just a dandelion
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Dandelion will make you wise
Tell me if she laughs or cries
Blow away dandelion
I'm afraid there's no denying
I'm just a dandelion
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have you ever tried explaining yourself
to one of them?
~ alan bates, the mothman prophecies
i've had this with actors before, on the set,
where they get upset about the [size of my]
trailer, and i'm always like...take my trailer,
cause... i'm from Kentucky
and that's not what we brag about.
~ george clooney, inside the actor's studio
a straight edge for legends at
the fold - searching for our
lost cities of gold. burnt tar,
gravel pits. sixteen gears switch.
Haphazard Lucy strolls by.
~ dennis r wood ~
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