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wesley was CUTE. 
you're more advanced than a cockroach,
have you ever tried explaining yourself
to one of them?
~ alan bates, the mothman prophecies
i've had this with actors before, on the set,
where they get upset about the [size of my]
trailer, and i'm always like...take my trailer,
cause... i'm from Kentucky
and that's not what we brag about.
~ george clooney, inside the actor's studio
a straight edge for legends at
the fold - searching for our
lost cities of gold. burnt tar,
gravel pits. sixteen gears switch.
Haphazard Lucy strolls by.
~ dennis r wood ~
have you ever tried explaining yourself
to one of them?
~ alan bates, the mothman prophecies
i've had this with actors before, on the set,
where they get upset about the [size of my]
trailer, and i'm always like...take my trailer,
cause... i'm from Kentucky
and that's not what we brag about.
~ george clooney, inside the actor's studio
a straight edge for legends at
the fold - searching for our
lost cities of gold. burnt tar,
gravel pits. sixteen gears switch.
Haphazard Lucy strolls by.
~ dennis r wood ~
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I think Jar-Jar symbolized how stubbornly Lucas wanted to keep Star Wars as "kiddie fare" even as the rest of us original SW fans had moved on and wished for more "grown up" elements.
So it was with the Ewoks, too. With The Empire Strikes Back, fans had been given a tantalizing taste of what a more adult SW world might be like, with its potential for greater emotional complexity. But then with Return of the Jedi and the Ewoks, it was as though Empire had never happened and SW had regressed to something worse than the innocence of the first movie. Empire was like a grown up kid dismissed by the father (Lucas) for being too smart.
I think that with Revenge of the Sith, Lucas did much to shift the balance back to a more mature kind of SW story, but ROTS's cause was handicapped by the general mediocrity of Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones.
However, my love of all things Jedi is stronger than my hatred of all things Jar-Jar (and Ewoks), so a Star Wars fan I do remain.
I can't comment much on Wesley Crusher. Didn't see enough episodes of ST:TNG to form a strong opinion of him either way.
So it was with the Ewoks, too. With The Empire Strikes Back, fans had been given a tantalizing taste of what a more adult SW world might be like, with its potential for greater emotional complexity. But then with Return of the Jedi and the Ewoks, it was as though Empire had never happened and SW had regressed to something worse than the innocence of the first movie. Empire was like a grown up kid dismissed by the father (Lucas) for being too smart.
I think that with Revenge of the Sith, Lucas did much to shift the balance back to a more mature kind of SW story, but ROTS's cause was handicapped by the general mediocrity of Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones.
However, my love of all things Jedi is stronger than my hatred of all things Jar-Jar (and Ewoks), so a Star Wars fan I do remain.
I can't comment much on Wesley Crusher. Didn't see enough episodes of ST:TNG to form a strong opinion of him either way.
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TIC TAC
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I tend to agree with Matrixman although I do wonder just what it was about Jar Jar that I found so annoying. Was he just irritating to look at? Was it his nearly un understandable, embarrasingly stereotypical Jamaican accent? Was it the slapstic bumbling of his thoughts and actions? All of the above?
Wesley Crusher was annoying because he represented an interference with my hero worship of the fully realized and matured Enterprise command crew, especially Picard. There is something very wrong with some snot nose kid figuring out the answer to a life threatening dilema that should have only been solved by someone that has years of Starfleet training and experience. I actually felt bad for Wil Wheaton that his character got such negative feedback from some of the fans.
Wesley Crusher was annoying because he represented an interference with my hero worship of the fully realized and matured Enterprise command crew, especially Picard. There is something very wrong with some snot nose kid figuring out the answer to a life threatening dilema that should have only been solved by someone that has years of Starfleet training and experience. I actually felt bad for Wil Wheaton that his character got such negative feedback from some of the fans.
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THOOLAH - Nuff said.