Have you ever seen something coming, before it arrived?

[Tjol]

If this doesn't qualify for the close, I guess it goes to general discussion.... but it is on metaphysical ponderings, so maybe it can stay?

I'm just wondering if anyone has ever for a moment gotten a sense of something getting ready to happen before the dominoes start falling.... and within a couple of weeks see the first few dominoes starting to topple each other over?

It's not picking lottery numbers, or the next roulette spin, but rather littler things changing in life that couldn't normally be expected, but that start happening just the same. The causality of most things in life is easy enough to take an educated guess about, it's easy to tell when work is going to offer more opportunities, or when your job is in danger, or when the company is going to change it's philosophy. But other people and events are really outside of even guessing, or even imagining, so to even imagine how they might come into being requires more creativity than substance in even pondering them.

I imagine that other people have had similar experiences in their life, and I was kind of curious if you made any sense out of it, or what you wrote it off to. Part of me keeps reminding myself that it's silly to think that imagining some event, and seeing a few of the forerunning events take place to start it in motion, really adds up to anything besides a creative imagination. Another thinks about self fulfilling prophecies, but self fulfilling prophecies can only directly influence one's immediate surroundings and associations. But mostly I wonder about where these kind of experiences come from, and why we have them....

Any thoughts, tellings of similar experiences, or curiosities about those experiences that you've had?

[Avatar]

One possible explanation is that we're more sensitive to our environments that even we realise. Those obvious things you mention, well, they're the result of perception and interpretation of fairly obvious stimuli.

The other kind, well, perhaps thats merely a more subtle, less conscious form of perception and analysis.

Twice in my life I've been aware of an impending cusp for no good reason. Not what would happen, merely that something would happen. It was an unpleasant sensation both times, and both times my life/perspective altered quite radically.

--A

[balon!]

I've had about a half dozen or so cases of deja vu where it really felt like I had dreamt it, and forgotten about the event, before. I'm not sure how true this is, but it didn't go away after a few seconds like it ussually does. Once it lasted a half-hour.

Anyone had experiences like this?

[Avatar]

I love deja vu.

--A

[A Gunslinger]

I have had moments...twice, maybe thrice in my life where in retrospect I realized that something was whispering in my ear or that I had acted on abnormal insight.

The trick is to be totally aware of the way your mind and instincts work. I think that we recieve (internal?)transmissions seeking our conscious action a fair amount of the time, but have unlearned the ability to recognize it by making other agreements between ourselves and the physical world.

[Tjol]

I've had about a half dozen or so cases of deja vu where it really felt like I had dreamt it, and forgotten about the event, before. I'm not sure how true this is, but it didn't go away after a few seconds like it ussually does. Once it lasted a half-hour.

Anyone had experiences like this?

I do have dream dejavu occasionally. Sometimes my dreams get pretty vivid, and for a split second I'll confuse the dream with a memory before thinking to myself 'whoa... that was a pretty realistic dream.'

[lucimay]

yes. this happens to me. with dreams. and waking. i had several "house" dreams when i lived in kentucky, then found them later after moving to California (the houses, that is). that was weird every time. (couple of them were serial killer dreams and not fun) those dreams are usually lucid.

as to the aligning of events. that too. not as profound as it sounds like Avatars experiences, but...sporatically most of my life. and it is as Av says, not what will happen, but that something is coming.

i've never wondered much at the nature of it as it felt like - well...once again, like Avatar said - a matter of awareness.


these things happen often enough to me to make me profess i don't believe in accidents.

and i use the word coincidence in a different way than most people.
CO-incidents.

right then.
now you all know how weird i am. <sigh>

[Avatar]

We already knew.

Dunno if I'd call it profound...depending on ghow you define it I suppose.

--A

[Ki]

Lucimay--This is my first post though I've been a "lurker" on the board for a few years now. Anyway, the point of my saying this is your post compelled me to respond. I am a Ky native and have had house dreams since I was a teen. I have never known anyone else to have house dreams and then when you said you had them when you were in Ky, I had to write! I've not had your experience of actually being in the houses that have been in my dreams.

[lucimay]

Lucimay--This is my first post though I've been a "lurker" on the board for a few years now. Anyway, the point of my saying this is your post compelled me to respond. I am a Ky native and have had house dreams since I was a teen. I have never known anyone else to have house dreams and then when you said you had them when you were in Ky, I had to write! I've not had your experience of actually being in the houses that have been in my dreams.

wow! that's totally bizarre! i wonder if Ky has "house dreams mojo"????

i have never been inside any of the houses that i found. they were all roadside sightings, one of them VERY close up. in my dream, it was a large house with a smaller like...gardner's cottage off to the side. when i stumbled on it, i told my husband and he was all like...no way!!! (cause i had told him about the dream after having it, it was one of the serial killer dreams and SOOO memorable that even HE remembered it when i said "oh my god, it's the house from the dream!!" but we couldn't see the little gardner's cottage so he and the friend we were with were about to write me off as a nutcase but i walked down the drive and sure enough, there was the cottage, all overgrown with trees and bushes and weeds!! it was there!!! eek. i got a little dizzy and Ger (husband) said i turned all white and we got the hell outa there.
the house is on Angel Island in San Francisco Bay. freaky!!

[A Gunslinger]

Lucimay--This is my first post though I've been a "lurker" on the board for a few years now. Anyway, the point of my saying this is your post compelled me to respond. I am a Ky native and have had house dreams since I was a teen. I have never known anyone else to have house dreams and then when you said you had them when you were in Ky, I had to write! I've not had your experience of actually being in the houses that have been in my dreams.

wow! that's totally bizarre! i wonder if Ky has "house dreams mojo"????

i have never been inside any of the houses that i found. they were all roadside sightings, one of them VERY close up. in my dream, it was a large house with a smaller like...gardner's cottage off to the side. when i stumbled on it, i told my husband and he was all like...no way!!! (cause i had told him about the dream after having it, it was one of the serial killer dreams and SOOO memorable that even HE remembered it when i said "oh my god, it's the house from the dream!!" but we couldn't see the little gardner's cottage so he and the friend we were with were about to write me off as a nutcase but i walked down the drive and sure enough, there was the cottage, all overgrown with trees and bushes and weeds!! it was there!!! eek. i got a little dizzy and Ger (husband) said i turned all white and we got the hell outa there.
the house is on Angel Island in San Francisco Bay. freaky!!

I too have had HOUSE dreams as well, mostly they are of a manevalent bent, with the house being larger on the inside than on the outside, and there are ghosts. Lots of them.

[Zarathustra]

Yeah, I've dreamed many things that later came true. And I've dreamed lots of things that never come true. The difference is, that I can tell which is which when I dream them. They are a lot more vivid, and I just *know* they are glimpses into the future. I've even started calling my mother to warn her on several occasions.

Usually, these dreams have to do with the house I grew up in, back in the woods of KY. We built the house ourselves on property that has been in my family since white guys gave the Indians the beads.

Anyway, we lived there for over a decade with the same neighbor, who owned all the land around us. He was over two miles away, and we couldn't see him though the woods. But then I started having dreams of people moving in and chopping down the forest. It was unthinkable that anyone could move in around us because our neighbor's land was also in his family for decades. But shortly after my dreams (which were very intense and full of fear), he decided he had enough of farm life and sold his land. People started buying it up and building houses around my mother's property--in exactly the areas I dreamed they would.

I had a dream of a fire around my mother's house, and knew it was a "one of those dreams." So I called to warn her. On my next visit to her, there were firetrucks everywhere and a huge fire in the woods close to her property.

I had a very bizarre dream of towers falling around her house. Towers or trees. Large structures falling into her house. I called to warn her. She laughed it off, but soon afterward she had a man come to do some work on her cistern, and his backhoe got caught in her second floor deck--which is supported on tall, thick posts. She immediately thought about my warning and raced to make sure everything was okay, luckily stopping the man before he pulled her entire deck down.

And the list goes on. I'm not sure what to think about it. I don't think I'm psychic. But someone might be able to convince me that present and future aren't quite as separate as we all believe.

[Ki]

wow! that's totally bizarre! i wonder if Ky has "house dreams mojo"????

i have never been inside any of the houses that i found. they were all roadside sightings, one of them VERY close up. in my dream, it was a large house with a smaller like...gardner's cottage off to the side. when i stumbled on it, i told my husband and he was all like...no way!!! (cause i had told him about the dream after having it, it was one of the serial killer dreams and SOOO memorable that even HE remembered it when i said "oh my god, it's the house from the dream!!" but we couldn't see the little gardner's cottage so he and the friend we were with were about to write me off as a nutcase but i walked down the drive and sure enough, there was the cottage, all overgrown with trees and bushes and weeds!! it was there!!! eek. i got a little dizzy and Ger (husband) said i turned all white and we got the hell outa there.
the house is on Angel Island in San Francisco Bay. freaky!!

That IS totally bizarre! I am wondering the same thing about Ky house mojo. I bet that was a freaky experience seeing the house in your dreams. I think I would have a similar reaction. Was it the same house in your dreams or different ones?

[Ki]

I too have had HOUSE dreams as well, mostly they are of a manevalent bent, with the house being larger on the inside than on the outside, and there are ghosts. Lots of them.

Cool...another house dreamer. In mine, I sense something important, has happened in the house. Different houses and each one seems like the rooms are neverending, with long stairs, often winding. Sometimes there are lots of dolls, like porcelain. Weird.


As far as psychic ability, I don't think I have anything going on that special (like Malik), but I do have a pretty good sense of intuition which helps me out from time to time.

[lucimay]

That IS totally bizarre! I am wondering the same thing about Ky house mojo. I bet that was a freaky experience seeing the house in your dreams. I think I would have a similar reaction. Was it the same house in your dreams or different ones?

same. boarded up the same way. big plywood pieces on the windows.
urg. makes hinky thinking about it.


and malik...i think i'm thinking along the same lines as you suggest. about a blur between present and future.
i paid attention to the dreams when i had them in kentucky because they were weird lucid dreams.
it never occurred to me to look for the houses. i just recognized them when i saw them.
and mine had no practical usage either.
also, when you say you can tell which is which kind of dream, i'm with you there too. as i said, the weirder ones are "lucid" dreams. i'm aware i'm "dreaming".

[Avatar]

Welcome to the Watch KiGirl. It amazes me what motivates people to finally sign up and post...and creeps me out a little to think of all the invisible eavesdroppers on our conversations.

Me, I don't dream.

Malik: About the past and future being the same thing...or at least less seperate...I can get behind that idea. Where does time go? If its a force, it must have an energy, and energy can't be destroyed. I think everything is happening all at once.

If it were possible to alter our position relative to the flow of time, and move ourserlves within it, would we find anything? If we did, then it would prove that everything exists at the same time...every moment of the past still happening, every moment of the future (tenses get very funny talking about time) has/is/will be happening.

If that is not true, then the only possible explanation is that nothing exists in the future or past, and the universe comes into existance and is destroyed in every instant.

--A

[balon!]

I too have had HOUSE dreams as well, mostly they are of a manevalent bent, with the house being larger on the inside than on the outside, and there are ghosts. Lots of them.

You ever read House of Leaves Guns? EXACTALLY what your describing. Just dont do what I did, and read most of it the early morning when your half dreaming.

[Tjol]

I used to lucid dream, as in actively participate in the reality of that dream, when I was in my teens.

As time has gone on though, I am aware I'm in a dream still, but I prefer to observe, record, and only participate as the context dictates, probably because I don't remember as many dreams when I wake now, so I'm more interested in seeing the dream realise itself.

[SoulQuest1970]

Yes, especially with deaths. *sigh*

[Tjol]

Yes, especially with deaths. *sigh*

Death can be kind, much as we never want to see him paying our loved ones a visit.