Re-reading Mordant's Need *Spoilers*

"Reflect" on Stephen Donaldson's other epic fantasy

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I started a reread of it...I think...this past summer or maybe spring....I can't remember. It's been especially slow for me, mainly because I'm not reading nearly as much as I had been since the baby was born. But regardless, I was surprised at how quickly Terisa grows a spine. I always remembered her being kinda spineless for a while, but it is reading like a totally different book for me. I'm about halfway through the second book, and I really need to get back to it before I forget everything I read previously.
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Just finished Bk 2. As always, a great read. I was particularly interested to note another warning about the dangers of certainty near the end. (SRD has the Bloodguard dislike certainty too.)

Gart was great in this book...gonna go find the thread.

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Oh, anybody else feel a theme of people not being completely responsible for their own actions though? There usually seems to be an explanation for the way the characters turned out. Nyle and Gilbur spring to mind.

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Remind me again how fast you read? Sheesh. I don't quite connect all the dots in your question.
The story is fresh in your mind now, but you need to refresh us (okay, me) on what it is you're talking about.
I'm not being antsy here, just asking you...to...slow...down...for an old-timer like me.
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:lol: 'Bout 120 pages an hour usually.

As for my question...SRD seems to go to lengths to explain why Gilbur was the way he was...the attack, the suffering he underwent until Eremis rescued him. He absolves Nyle of his treachery by having Joyce acknowledge that it was his actions that drove Nyle to treachery, things like that...reasons why the "bad guys" acted the way they did.

He doesn't absolve, but he does justify.

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Avatar wrote:He doesn't absolve, but he does justify.
The word I would use is "explain". Donaldsons characters are always plausible - they always make plausible choices based on circumstances and temperment, even the evil ones.
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Ok, yeah, that's a good way of looking at it. I like the acknowledgement that things don't happen in a vacuum. It's a crazy, random, cause and effect universe. :D

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Terisa was essentially living her real life in a vacuum, the "the empty mirror" as it were and has to recreate herself out of almost nothing.
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Just powered through a bunch of book one yesterday and when I read the scene where Myste leaves to go on her journey I was reminded of how much I love Myste. She describes the way that others would describe her as being the "dreamy" one but she's probably the most down to earth and practical person we have met so far.
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Just finished book 1. I forgot what a great suspense point SRD ended it on. If I had to wait for the next book I would be suffering.
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Dang, that's fast. I'm only 3/4 of the way through Mirror of Her Dreams, despite starting before you.

It's such great weather this weekend, though, I'll probably head to the park tomorrow and finish the rest.
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Cameraman Jenn wrote:Just finished book 1. I forgot what a great suspense point SRD ended it on. If I had to wait for the next book I would be suffering.
I believe the first time I read it, I did have to wait for the next book. (Or wait until I found it, not sure which.)
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I just read the scene with Quillon and Terisa in the dungeon and I got all choked up over how compassionate Terisa is over the Castellan despite the horrific way he treats her. Of all the people she's met and come to like she gets most angry and mortified over what Joyse is doing to the CASTELLAN, the one person who has sworn to hurt her to the fullest extent of his power. She is so upset for the Castellan that she is moved to TEARS. Her ability to finally express grief reveals that her passive days are now OVER. She has really come a long way in her journey at this point. I love and admire her for it.
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Cameraman Jenn wrote:Just finished book 1. I forgot what a great suspense point SRD ended it on. If I had to wait for the next book I would be suffering.
I believe the first time I read it, I did have to wait for the next book. (Or wait until I found it, not sure which.)
Yeah, I looked for the second one for a few years. :D

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Cameraman Jenn wrote:Just finished book 1. I forgot what a great suspense point SRD ended it on. If I had to wait for the next book I would be suffering.
I believe the first time I read it, I did have to wait for the next book. (Or wait until I found it, not sure which.)
Yeah, I looked for the second one for a few years. :D

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Ha, that's nothing...I waited 17 years for King to finish The Dark Tower. :lol:

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Avatar wrote:Ha, that's nothing...I waited 17 years for King to finish The Dark Tower. :lol:

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Meh, it's grown on me. I was annoyed at first, (not by the actual ending, but by King), but a few rereads and it started to make sense.

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Take it to the SK forum, we are talking about MN here. Forgot how amazing T is when she finally goes to G for some booty.
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