Jonathon Strange and Mr. Norrell - Does it improve?
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Jonathon Strange and Mr. Norrell - Does it improve?
I'm about 100 pages in, and it started off very well, quite sinister and I thought there might be a spooky little story in here, the trip to see Mr. Norrell was well-handled, as wer the introductory chapters.
The lo and behold it arrives in London and falls to pieces! tedious and verbose, the introduction to society thru the insufferable Drawlight is endless. The footnotes once quite interesting are now simply a chore.
It seems to me like a 3-400 page story is being dragged out to twice that length, does it improve at all? it seems the sinister and interesting has given way to boredom and farce.
The lo and behold it arrives in London and falls to pieces! tedious and verbose, the introduction to society thru the insufferable Drawlight is endless. The footnotes once quite interesting are now simply a chore.
It seems to me like a 3-400 page story is being dragged out to twice that length, does it improve at all? it seems the sinister and interesting has given way to boredom and farce.
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Yep. It's written like a Victorian novel, so if you've had trouble reading Charles Dickens or Jane Austen, you'll have difficulty with this novel also.Murrin wrote:It's been a long time since I read it, but I think I found it a bit slow up until the second section, when Strange is introduced. I did like it overall.
I, however, enjoyed it, footnotes and all.
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I, however, enjoyed it, footnotes and all.[/quote]
Those footnotes were actually my favorite part of the whole thing.
I enjoyed it mostly, but it wasn't all that and a trust fund as I was led to believe.
I, however, enjoyed it, footnotes and all.[/quote]
Those footnotes were actually my favorite part of the whole thing.
I enjoyed it mostly, but it wasn't all that and a trust fund as I was led to believe.
[spoiler]Sig-man, Libtard, Stupid piece of shit. change your text color to brown. Mr. Reliable, bullshit-slinging liarFucker-user.[/spoiler]
the difference between evidence and sources: whether they come from the horse's mouth or a horse's ass.
"Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation."
the hyperbole is a beauty...for we are then allowed to say a little more than the truth...and language is more efficient when it goes beyond reality than when it stops short of it.
the difference between evidence and sources: whether they come from the horse's mouth or a horse's ass.
"Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation."
the hyperbole is a beauty...for we are then allowed to say a little more than the truth...and language is more efficient when it goes beyond reality than when it stops short of it.
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I stopped after a couple hundred pages. I can't help but wonder if I would have finished it if I had gotten my first pair of reading glasses just before I started reading it, instead of just after. Heh. But it really wasn't doing for me what I'd hoped.
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And disregards the rest -Paul Simon
wayfriend wrote:If your asking if it gets markedly better as it goes along, then the answer is no. If you're not liking the beginning, nothing is going to pull you in. Just my opinion.
I think you're right actually. From the magic in the Cathedral, it all went downhill from there.
Oh well, someone will enjoy it I guess, I'll give it to a charity shop. It's not what I'd hoped.
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I tried reading it and gave up after about 200 pages. Just didn't like the writing style and nothing in the stories or characters was drawing me in.
So a few months later I tried what has worked in similar situations before, where I really wanted to know the story but was having difficulty reading and got the story as an audiobook. Even as an audiobook, I gave up about half way thru, ended up fast forwarding a lot and never found a section that insterested me.
So a few months later I tried what has worked in similar situations before, where I really wanted to know the story but was having difficulty reading and got the story as an audiobook. Even as an audiobook, I gave up about half way thru, ended up fast forwarding a lot and never found a section that insterested me.
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Wow, I thought it was great. Definitely written in an older style, and it had a lot of digressions and didn't seem to have a unified plot. But I thought all those things made it charming. I found it witty, funny, creepy, and compelling.
Definitely the kind of book you are going to either love or hate. Not for everyone.
Definitely the kind of book you are going to either love or hate. Not for everyone.
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The footnotes are what definitely made the book, I think. A good enough imitation of Victorian literature, but the footnotes are what give it life.Lady Revel wrote:My opinion? Well, I read it years ago when it first came out. I finished it. It still sits on my bookcase. Meh. It was okay. I kind of liked the footnotes. If there were no footnotes I probably wouldn't have finished it.
'Tis dream to think that Reason can
Govern the reasoning creature, man.
- Herman Melville
I am Lazarus, come from the dead,
Come back to tell you all, I shall tell you all!
"All creation is a huge, ornate, imaginary, and unintended fiction; if it could be deciphered it would yield a single shocking word."
-John Crowley
Govern the reasoning creature, man.
- Herman Melville
I am Lazarus, come from the dead,
Come back to tell you all, I shall tell you all!
"All creation is a huge, ornate, imaginary, and unintended fiction; if it could be deciphered it would yield a single shocking word."
-John Crowley