Virtual reality
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Virtual reality
Where is it?!?!?!?! I remember listening to an interview in the 80s with scientists and so saying it was just around the corner and soon a real (not virtual) reality. Nearly 30 years later and no virtual reality. hmpf...
Monsters, they eat
Your kind of meat
And they're moving as far as they can
And as fast as they can
Your kind of meat
And they're moving as far as they can
And as fast as they can
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Hashi Lebwohl
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Too many people overly hyping something that has made them geek out and they think the entire world will geek out with them. Unfortunately, that never happens. This is why I doubt anything like The Singularity will ever happen (the point at which we are able to successfully integrate computers into ourselves, especially our brains, making us truly cyborgs and representing the first step towards transcending human limitations) even though I would like it happen. If it sounds too good to be true it probably isn't true.
We are getting closer to omnipresent access, though, given that new car models are incorporating mobile hot spots--you can carry your own wireless network around with you as you drive.
Part of the reason we never transitioned to a paperless society is business. Many businesses are hideously and frustratingly slow to purchase or embrace new technology. The vast majority of businesses still have computers which run on WindowsXP and they will not upgrade until the computer physically dies, forcing them to replace it. Most printers they use are probably 10 years old but they will keep using it as long as it works.
Government is the other problem. Yes, some government agencies are ahead of the cutting edge when it comes to technology, like the NSA, but other government agencies are still stuck in pre-Y2K times. We have a desk here with a typewriter on it--a typewriter--because some Medicaid forms don't have printable formats and have to be filled out on that typewriter. I told that group "we can't fix the typewriter if it breaks".
The final reason really neat technologies like virtual reality don't change the world is cost. Unless some corporation decides to make VR units and give them away for free (but charge for a monthly service), not enough people will get into VR to make it profitable. Currently you can get VR setups for gaming consoles but they aren't inexpensive and they don't work on all platforms, making it a niche market at best. The only other applications currently using any sort of VR technology is psychological aversion therapy (presenting people with a virtual simulation of something they fear) or for other artificial intelligence or graphics experiments.
We are getting closer to omnipresent access, though, given that new car models are incorporating mobile hot spots--you can carry your own wireless network around with you as you drive.
Part of the reason we never transitioned to a paperless society is business. Many businesses are hideously and frustratingly slow to purchase or embrace new technology. The vast majority of businesses still have computers which run on WindowsXP and they will not upgrade until the computer physically dies, forcing them to replace it. Most printers they use are probably 10 years old but they will keep using it as long as it works.
Government is the other problem. Yes, some government agencies are ahead of the cutting edge when it comes to technology, like the NSA, but other government agencies are still stuck in pre-Y2K times. We have a desk here with a typewriter on it--a typewriter--because some Medicaid forms don't have printable formats and have to be filled out on that typewriter. I told that group "we can't fix the typewriter if it breaks".
The final reason really neat technologies like virtual reality don't change the world is cost. Unless some corporation decides to make VR units and give them away for free (but charge for a monthly service), not enough people will get into VR to make it profitable. Currently you can get VR setups for gaming consoles but they aren't inexpensive and they don't work on all platforms, making it a niche market at best. The only other applications currently using any sort of VR technology is psychological aversion therapy (presenting people with a virtual simulation of something they fear) or for other artificial intelligence or graphics experiments.
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Quoting is too hard on my mobile thingie, but you did talk about cost, Hashi. It is my guess that the porn industry will be at the forefront of this technology like they were with many other techs. Thanks goodness for men watching porn! Give us our virtual reality already so I can read interactive holonovels (like 50 shades- so, literature).
Monsters, they eat
Your kind of meat
And they're moving as far as they can
And as fast as they can
Your kind of meat
And they're moving as far as they can
And as fast as they can
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Hashi Lebwohl
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My wife would probably frown at me if I engage in that behavior. You are correct, though--the porn industry is usually on the cutting edge of technology upgrades.Ananda wrote:Thanks goodness for men watching porn!
Speaking of female porn....Ananda wrote:Give us our virtual reality already so I can read interactive holonovels (like 50 shades- so, literature).
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Vraith
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That is so funny, and in too many ways true, and sounds exactly like a comment a friend of mine made...oh, in the mid-90's?. I don't know if he had insight himself or stole if from someone...Ananda wrote:Quoting is too hard on my mobile thingie, but you did talk about cost, Hashi. It is my guess that the porn industry will be at the forefront of this technology like they were with many other techs. Thanks goodness for men watching porn! Give us our virtual reality already so I can read interactive holonovels (like 50 shades- so, literature).
But, and I find this highly amusing, he said it IN CHARACTER, in the middle of an RPG session, but also meant it as a person [he was a genetics guy in training then, he's a genetics researcher now in profession.]...
Anyway, said [roughly...been a long time]
"Getting rich in media and consumer tech is 75% 'is it good for porn?', 25% everything else."
Virtual reality is kinda weird on so many ways...at least in what people think will come of it...
[spoiler]Sig-man, Libtard, Stupid piece of shit. change your text color to brown. Mr. Reliable, bullshit-slinging liarFucker-user.[/spoiler]
the difference between evidence and sources: whether they come from the horse's mouth or a horse's ass.
"Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation."
the hyperbole is a beauty...for we are then allowed to say a little more than the truth...and language is more efficient when it goes beyond reality than when it stops short of it.
the difference between evidence and sources: whether they come from the horse's mouth or a horse's ass.
"Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation."
the hyperbole is a beauty...for we are then allowed to say a little more than the truth...and language is more efficient when it goes beyond reality than when it stops short of it.
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Zarathustra
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It's almost here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oculus_Rift
Looks like April 2015 is the release date.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oculus_Rift
Looks like April 2015 is the release date.
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Vraith
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I'm sure I mentioned this before somewhere.Ananda wrote:He says regarding a porn based technology...Avatar wrote:It'll probably come.
But there is short story that cracked me up a long time ago.
In it, virtual entertainment...full immersion, total immersion...is cheap [maybe free???] at home for everyone.
Porn is, of course, one of the biggest things.
A group that is basically Christian foundations, except WAY out there/strict/odd. A take-off on the sects/theological interps. that run roughly like: sex is bad. ALL sex. you can mitigate that by following the strict rules [marriage/procreation only].
This group spends every single dime and minute:
making VR as physically satisfying, and even MORE satisfying than reality.
finding the best fuckers in the world. [not just that they can do the moves, and look the part, but that they really get off on it]
And making as much porn [all available for free] as possible.
IIRC, they even have a religious ritual tied to it.
Husband and wife suit up and lie beside each other to participate in the rite...VR sex. Not with their partner.
So, in the end, no one is actually having sex. Not "real" sex.
I need to find it again. I'm sure I'm mixing some things up, and I know there are absent details.
But I remember cracking up at the alliance of a totally rigid old religion structure and a purely technological hedotopia.
[spoiler]Sig-man, Libtard, Stupid piece of shit. change your text color to brown. Mr. Reliable, bullshit-slinging liarFucker-user.[/spoiler]
the difference between evidence and sources: whether they come from the horse's mouth or a horse's ass.
"Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation."
the hyperbole is a beauty...for we are then allowed to say a little more than the truth...and language is more efficient when it goes beyond reality than when it stops short of it.
the difference between evidence and sources: whether they come from the horse's mouth or a horse's ass.
"Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation."
the hyperbole is a beauty...for we are then allowed to say a little more than the truth...and language is more efficient when it goes beyond reality than when it stops short of it.
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Vraith
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Here's the hot, xxx news for ya, Ananda. [minor synchronicity going on here it seems]
A couple features are still missing from the tech...but anyway...
Warning: the full article has a couple sections of pretty explicit anatomy discussion, and some bad sexual nudge-nudge/pun stuff, for those offended by such things.
Exerpt:
A couple features are still missing from the tech...but anyway...
Warning: the full article has a couple sections of pretty explicit anatomy discussion, and some bad sexual nudge-nudge/pun stuff, for those offended by such things.
Exerpt:
www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/10/ ... -porn.htmlImagine a realistic, customizable experience in which you choose everything from the color of your partner’s hair to the position and sex act you most desire in that moment. Swap out that blond with the A-cup for a busty redhead in an instant. Or maybe you’d like to talk a walk on the wild side and experience something you’d be embarrassed to ask for in real life. It’s the ultimate curated experience and it could be available to consumers as early as next year.
[spoiler]Sig-man, Libtard, Stupid piece of shit. change your text color to brown. Mr. Reliable, bullshit-slinging liarFucker-user.[/spoiler]
the difference between evidence and sources: whether they come from the horse's mouth or a horse's ass.
"Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation."
the hyperbole is a beauty...for we are then allowed to say a little more than the truth...and language is more efficient when it goes beyond reality than when it stops short of it.
the difference between evidence and sources: whether they come from the horse's mouth or a horse's ass.
"Most people are other people. Their thoughts are someone else's opinions, their lives a mimicry, their passions a quotation."
the hyperbole is a beauty...for we are then allowed to say a little more than the truth...and language is more efficient when it goes beyond reality than when it stops short of it.
That's a funny story, Vraith! I liked your description of 'the best fuckers in the world'. 
And, porn is not really my thing, but the tech that it inspires is good. But, let's not lie: I think we'd all try out that vr sex thingie at least once*!
Combining this and your story, how do you see this playing out when the day comes when vr sex is as good or better than the real thing? No diseases, no limits, tailored to your kinkiest desires... I can see serious addictions going on at the least and a disconnect between people, even couples, happening. Just like in the story you described.
* if 'once' means at least 10 times
And, porn is not really my thing, but the tech that it inspires is good. But, let's not lie: I think we'd all try out that vr sex thingie at least once*!
Combining this and your story, how do you see this playing out when the day comes when vr sex is as good or better than the real thing? No diseases, no limits, tailored to your kinkiest desires... I can see serious addictions going on at the least and a disconnect between people, even couples, happening. Just like in the story you described.
* if 'once' means at least 10 times
Monsters, they eat
Your kind of meat
And they're moving as far as they can
And as fast as they can
Your kind of meat
And they're moving as far as they can
And as fast as they can