Roswell and Area 51

Post by **Kinslaughterer** » Sat Jul 16, 2005 12:56 am

What are your thoughts on these two locales of extraterrestial lore?

Post by **Loredoctor** » Sat Jul 16, 2005 1:08 am

Hard to say, really. I've done the research, but somethng weird did happen that day - alien or not.

Post by **Cheval** » Sat Jul 16, 2005 1:47 am

I KNOW what really happened...
and I WANT my ship back!

Post by **danlo** » Sat Jul 16, 2005 1:53 am

They took me from Roswell to Area 51 where I gestated for 9 years I came to and escaped back to New Mexico!

Post by **Loredoctor** » Sat Jul 16, 2005 1:56 am

guys!

Post by **Edinburghemma** » Sat Jul 16, 2005 7:11 am

I have met one of those cows and we shouldn't jest about burns!

Post by **Alynna Lis Eachann** » Sat Jul 16, 2005 7:28 am

I vote for aliens, or possibly a military craft... though if it were the latter, they would have probably declassified it by now, and all the military aviation buffs would have a model on their bookshelves next to the SR71.

Post by **Cheval** » Sat Jul 16, 2005 12:46 pm

It was the area where the SR-71 and F-11A were tested at before becoming public.
(Except that there were model airplaines in the toy stores that did look like them
BEFORE the real ones were "declassified".)

I think that they are things out there (Groom Lake area) that our Goverment is hiding, and not just military items either. Things that would put the general public in a panic. (extraterrestial?)

Post by **Reisheiruhime** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 5:57 pm

Like I said, aliens crashed there: that's where we got Teflon.

Post by **matrixman** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 7:06 pm

I caught a show on TLC a while ago that did its own take on the Roswell event. The show put forward the question: how much can we truly rely on witnesses’ memories of the incident—and by extension, how accurate really is human memory in general? To try to answer this, the show did an experiment: a group of volunteers was led through a desert locale under the pretense that they were on a nature hike. Earlier, the show’s crew had secretly set up a mock “alien crash “ site near the hiking trail. Yellow cautionary tape was strung around the site. Finally, they had an actor in army uniform with a prop sidearm standing guard at the site, barring access. The crash scene was carefully arranged so that only odd bits of metal and plastic could be glimpsed through the desert brush as the volunteers walked by. A crucial aspect of this experiment was that each of the volunteers was outfitted with a tiny video camera that recorded exactly what that person saw from his POV.

30 days after the expedition, the volunteers were asked to recall what they saw on that day. Their memories of the crash site turned out to be filled with inaccuracies and fanciful embellishments, such as that there were several guards around the site, not the one single guard. Another remembered the guard advancing and pointing his gun at her, but the tape of her POV camera showed that the guard did nothing of the kind. Some drew a sketch of what they thought the “alien” ship looked like, even though at best all they had ever really seen was just odd-shaped fragments of objects scattered here and there.

The experiment demonstrated how fallible our memory can be in recalling the exact details of a scene—especially if that scene seems charged with potential danger. In our rush of adrenaline, our emotions color what we see in front of us. If these volunteers’ memories can become easily corrupted after one month, then what might that say about memories of events that occurred years ago, such as the Roswell incident?

Of course this doesn’t disprove or prove anything about Roswell. And I suppose one could pick apart this experiment looking for flaws. But I think it makes a decent case that our memory works in strange and not entirely reliable ways.

And speaking of unreliable memory, I’ve forgotten the name of that show…

Post by **Revan** » Tue Jul 19, 2005 9:36 am

I don't know the full situation of either, has anyone got a link?

Post by **Cybrweez** » Tue Jul 19, 2005 3:57 pm

That owl was cool.

Post by **Zahir** » Sun Jul 24, 2005 3:45 pm

I saw that show also! It was cool!

Me, I believe it was an experiment--as was finally revealed after pointless skullduggery--involving the dropping of dummies from the upper stratosphere. That accounts for the all more verifiable details.

Post by **Loredoctor** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 12:08 am

Zahir wrote:Me, I believe it was an experiment--as was finally revealed after pointless skullduggery--involving the dropping of dummies from the upper stratosphere. That accounts for the all more verifiable details.

Then the military should have said that instead of admitting it was a ufo crash at the start, then changing it to a weather balloon. There would be no reason to create a conspiracy if it was just dummies.

Post by **Lord Mhoram** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 12:26 am

Loremaster,

Dude there really is no conspiracy here. Aliens did not land at Roswell.

Post by **Loredoctor** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 2:35 am

I realise that, but if it was dummies why not say so - why all the back-tracking? I am more of a mind to believe that the town's made it up to simply make it more famous.

Post by **Kinslaughterer** » Mon Jul 25, 2005 2:49 am

Having been to Roswell a few times now, I think the town is mildy embarassed by all the UFO publicity. They have made a concerted effort to advertise other forms of tourism and entertainment while sort of quarantining the real alien stuff to a section of town.

Post by **ur-bane** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 2:45 pm

Loremaster wrote:I realise that, but if it was dummies why not say so - why all the back-tracking?...

The government wants all the speculation and intrigue of Roswell.
My eye sees the "alien" theories as the perfect distraction from the truth.

While the public is so determined to find the truth about Roswell's aliens crash-landing and government cover-up, the government/military can go about its business without the real truth of what is going on at Roswell ever being uncovered.

The weather balloon/crash dummy explanation did exactly what the government wanted. They wanted a distraction from the truth. People used the weather balloon theory to further their belief in an alien craft crash-landing, which is the belief the government/military wanted.

So now they just have to make up more crap about it to turn eyes further from the truth. As long as people think that a spaceship landed, that will be their focus. Genious!

Post by **Loredoctor** » Thu Jul 28, 2005 10:10 pm

Good points, ur-Bane. I did read of a theory that they want our eyes at Roswell/Area 51, so that other installations - like one in a mountain range (does exist) escape public notice.

Post by **Avatar** » Fri Jul 29, 2005 6:17 am

I read somewhere that all governments have secret underground installations. It's axiomatic.

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