The Saddest Calvin and Hobbes Strip
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that IS the saddest calvin and hobbs!! 
you're more advanced than a cockroach,
have you ever tried explaining yourself
to one of them?
~ alan bates, the mothman prophecies
i've had this with actors before, on the set,
where they get upset about the [size of my]
trailer, and i'm always like...take my trailer,
cause... i'm from Kentucky
and that's not what we brag about.
~ george clooney, inside the actor's studio
a straight edge for legends at
the fold - searching for our
lost cities of gold. burnt tar,
gravel pits. sixteen gears switch.
Haphazard Lucy strolls by.
~ dennis r wood ~
have you ever tried explaining yourself
to one of them?
~ alan bates, the mothman prophecies
i've had this with actors before, on the set,
where they get upset about the [size of my]
trailer, and i'm always like...take my trailer,
cause... i'm from Kentucky
and that's not what we brag about.
~ george clooney, inside the actor's studio
a straight edge for legends at
the fold - searching for our
lost cities of gold. burnt tar,
gravel pits. sixteen gears switch.
Haphazard Lucy strolls by.
~ dennis r wood ~
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Bloom County is, without a doubt, one of my all time favorite comics.
Thanks for bringing all that back Peven.
Thanks for bringing all that back Peven.
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[Defeated by a gizmo from Batman's utility belt]
Joker: I swear by all that's funny never to be taken in by that unconstitutional device again!
[Defeated by a gizmo from Batman's utility belt]
Joker: I swear by all that's funny never to be taken in by that unconstitutional device again!
I still have all the Bloom County books.
That was a great strip.
That was a great strip.
"There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." - PJ O'Rourke
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"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
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"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
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"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
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"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
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Aw, Spring...come on! They put Calvin on meds, now his imagination is fried! Hobbes turns back into a stuffed toy...Spring wrote:Remind me: What is wrong with the C&H strip? I don't read it.
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OK, so what's the speed of dark?- Larry the Cable Guy
I have never understood how or why people find/found Garfield funny.
Even when it came out I didn't like it.
Even when it came out I didn't like it.
"There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." - PJ O'Rourke
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"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
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"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
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"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
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"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
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It seems that medicating kids is a relatively new phenomenon. When I was Calvin's age (early '70s), you never heard about medicating kids for behavioral issues. It became more of an issue in the mid-late '80s.
Maybe I'm completely off-base, but the majority of the kids I've seen with so-called behavioral issues are suffering from nothing more than poor parenting, and in our rush to cure all of life's ills through the simple fix (taking a pill), we've created a whole generation of over-medicated kids who're going to become over-medicated adults.
I have no empirical evidence to support this, so I welcome any comments or insight from anyone who knows more about it.
Maybe I'm completely off-base, but the majority of the kids I've seen with so-called behavioral issues are suffering from nothing more than poor parenting, and in our rush to cure all of life's ills through the simple fix (taking a pill), we've created a whole generation of over-medicated kids who're going to become over-medicated adults.
I have no empirical evidence to support this, so I welcome any comments or insight from anyone who knows more about it.
"There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." - PJ O'Rourke
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"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
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"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
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"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
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"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
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Cail, it does appear that way to the 'non-educated in various disabilities' eye. And yet, Paul and I were doing everything we could to resolve some of Beorn's issues and getting nowhere. We tried various parenting techniques, consulted parenting 'experts,' and nothing helped.Cail wrote:Maybe I'm completely off-base, but the majority of the kids I've seen with so-called behavioral issues are suffering from nothing more than poor parenting, and in our rush to cure all of life's ills through the simple fix (taking a pill), we've created a whole generation of over-medicated kids who're going to become over-medicated adults.
When I stumbled across the Parade Magazine Article on AS when Beorn was 9 years old, it didn't fit Beorn perfectly. But it was enough to set my 'Mommy radar' a quiver.
Getting the AS diagnosis didn't solve all his problems, but we researched and learned about techniques that do help him, such as sensory integration therapy in OT, pragmatic language usage and social skills in ST, and gross and fine motor coordination in PT. As of now, he does not see either a psychiatrist or psychologist, and is not medicated through prescription drugs, although we have found some nutritional supplements which we believe benefit him. However, the techniques used successfully for parenting NTs have been found to do nothing for Beorn at all. Unless he lived his life in punishment, he barely noticed parenting input, and then he would not have any idea why he was being punished, even if we sat the entire time and tried to discuss it with him. And this is an academically gifted child, according to his school district.
He will still stim (pace and hand flap) in stressful situations to him, but as he learns to self regulate himself, it is becoming more rare that he does so. He still has atrocious social and conversation skills, even with the therapies and our constant reminders about manners and being polite. But, I do see progress, and am awaiting the day when he will recieve his own phone call from someone inviting him to play or hang out (he's never had a phone call other than a family member or teacher, kids simply shun him).
I strongly believe the use of ritalin was over prescribed for primary school aged boys in the late 1970s/1980s. However, I also hear of children with absolutely no impulse control (preschoolers to seven year olds who run out the door to the street at every opportunity, even with vigilant caregivers/parents and routines in place to try and avoid the opportunity from arising or tweens and teens who can not censor what comes out of their mouths at all) or the sever anxious or hyperactive child. For some of these kids, and their families, use of medications like straterra or celexa (I think it's called celexa) do help these sitations. I praise HaShem that we have not had to go that route so far, but Paul and I have been advised to watch Beorn as he enters adolesence and becomes more aware of his social isolation. Aspies have been known to become severely depressed in their teens due to peer shunning, and we hope by starting therapy with Beorn at a somewhat early age that his social skills will be improved enough to avoid this. But, if he should become clinicaly depressed, we may have to go the medication route at that point.
Thank you Menolly. I had no idea.
"There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences." - PJ O'Rourke
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"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
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"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
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"Men and women range themselves into three classes or orders of intelligence; you can tell the lowest class by their habit of always talking about persons; the next by the fact that their habit is always to converse about things; the highest by their preference for the discussion of ideas." - Charles Stewart
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"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment of the freedom of the people by gradual and silent encroachments of those in power than by violent and sudden usurpations." - James Madison
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Excellent post Menolly. I certainly agree that there are instances where medication is the answer. However, I strongly believe that there is an over-eagerness, either among parents or the medical or educational communities to over-prescribe it.
I remember a recent case there where the court attempted to force a parent to have ritalin diagnosed for his child.
I truly believe that it should be the last resort, and only as part of a clear diagnosis, and after other methods have failed.
Too often, I fear it is the answer for parents who don't want to, or can't be bothered to, make the effort, unlike yourself and Paul, who clearly made every effort first.
(And why is there only one C&H strip in here? Oh, and I like Garfield sometimes.
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I remember a recent case there where the court attempted to force a parent to have ritalin diagnosed for his child.
I truly believe that it should be the last resort, and only as part of a clear diagnosis, and after other methods have failed.
Too often, I fear it is the answer for parents who don't want to, or can't be bothered to, make the effort, unlike yourself and Paul, who clearly made every effort first.
(And why is there only one C&H strip in here? Oh, and I like Garfield sometimes.
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That's because it sucked.Cail wrote:I have never understood how or why people find/found Garfield funny.
Even when it came out I didn't like it.
Dandelion don't tell no lies
Dandelion will make you wise
Tell me if she laughs or cries
Blow away dandelion
I'm afraid there's no denying
I'm just a dandelion
a fate I don't deserve.
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Dandelion will make you wise
Tell me if she laughs or cries
Blow away dandelion
I'm afraid there's no denying
I'm just a dandelion
a fate I don't deserve.
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Enter Garfield Minus Garfield.dANdeLION wrote:That's because it sucked.Cail wrote:I have never understood how or why people find/found Garfield funny.
Even when it came out I didn't like it.
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Yay Maddox.
I will say that, as someone who is now medicated, I have not been able to track any effect whatsoever that the meds have on me, positive or negative. I would say that the second "major" manic episode I had resulted in a kind of paranoia which has not and probably will not fade and an occasional tendency to completely zone out from whatever problem is at hand (in fact, sometimes I've given my parents the same treatment that Calvin gave Hobbes in the comic strip, sans forgetting that they exist - I've been in the middle of conversation with them and then lost track of the conversation in favor of thinking about something else). But I've been something of a day dreamer for a long time.
I will say that, as someone who is now medicated, I have not been able to track any effect whatsoever that the meds have on me, positive or negative. I would say that the second "major" manic episode I had resulted in a kind of paranoia which has not and probably will not fade and an occasional tendency to completely zone out from whatever problem is at hand (in fact, sometimes I've given my parents the same treatment that Calvin gave Hobbes in the comic strip, sans forgetting that they exist - I've been in the middle of conversation with them and then lost track of the conversation in favor of thinking about something else). But I've been something of a day dreamer for a long time.