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peter
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Business as usual! As a "thank you" to workers in the public sector for their efforts in respect of the Covid crisis, PM Johnson has decided upon an above inflation wage increase of up to 3.1 percent in recognition of their "vital contribution". This payment will go to doctors, teachers and other state sector employees (with the exception of nurses who already have a good inflation busting deal in place).
Well, that's all very well and yes they deserve it - but does absolutely nothing to recognise the equally vital contribution of the millions of care workers, of hospital cleaners, of shop workers, of bus drivers who remained in service throughout, often dying in disproportionately high numbers as a result. Would it not be appropriate for the Government to recognise their contribution in their thanks. If this cannot be done in the form of wage increases that stretch into the private sector, then let it at least come in the form of a medal, struck in recognition of, and distributed to all those designated "key worker" status during the lockdown.
To date the lachrymose thanks, the waving and clapping of the lockdown days have not translated into anything tangible, but rather seem to have evaporated (as was always to be expected) into "yesterday's story" as quickly forgotten as it was shallow in it's depth when being expressed.
Well, that's all very well and yes they deserve it - but does absolutely nothing to recognise the equally vital contribution of the millions of care workers, of hospital cleaners, of shop workers, of bus drivers who remained in service throughout, often dying in disproportionately high numbers as a result. Would it not be appropriate for the Government to recognise their contribution in their thanks. If this cannot be done in the form of wage increases that stretch into the private sector, then let it at least come in the form of a medal, struck in recognition of, and distributed to all those designated "key worker" status during the lockdown.
To date the lachrymose thanks, the waving and clapping of the lockdown days have not translated into anything tangible, but rather seem to have evaporated (as was always to be expected) into "yesterday's story" as quickly forgotten as it was shallow in it's depth when being expressed.
President of Peace? You fucking idiots!
"I know what America is. America is a thing that you can move very easily. Move it in the right direction. They won't get in the way." (Benjamin Netenyahu 2001.)
....and the glory of the world becomes less than it was....
'Have we not served you well'
'Of course - you know you have.'
'Then let it end.'
We are the Bloodguard
"I know what America is. America is a thing that you can move very easily. Move it in the right direction. They won't get in the way." (Benjamin Netenyahu 2001.)
....and the glory of the world becomes less than it was....
'Have we not served you well'
'Of course - you know you have.'
'Then let it end.'
We are the Bloodguard
Same for me.Avatar wrote:I don't bother with a flu shot, but that's largely because the couple I've had have ended with me sicker than in years I didn't get one.
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And Deer,
It was hard to find toilet paper for the household at one point, so I am guessing you had your work cut out with school supplies. Hope it turns for the better sooner.
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Avatar wrote: Funny that...the non-essential CEO gets millions, while the essential supermarket worker gets a few quid an hour...
Our CEO made almost 10 mil last year. He posts videos from lockdown in his 6-million dollar mansion to cheer us on. He was forced to grow a beard while in quarantine because he couldn't visit his barber, and that makes him Just Like Us. That was the same week he patted himself on the back for sending PPE to every location. Ours consisted of a 32oz bottle of Purell that had a use-by date of 2017.
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Hey mirandagon! Hello from the Watch and great to have you onboard!
President of Peace? You fucking idiots!
"I know what America is. America is a thing that you can move very easily. Move it in the right direction. They won't get in the way." (Benjamin Netenyahu 2001.)
....and the glory of the world becomes less than it was....
'Have we not served you well'
'Of course - you know you have.'
'Then let it end.'
We are the Bloodguard
"I know what America is. America is a thing that you can move very easily. Move it in the right direction. They won't get in the way." (Benjamin Netenyahu 2001.)
....and the glory of the world becomes less than it was....
'Have we not served you well'
'Of course - you know you have.'
'Then let it end.'
We are the Bloodguard
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Welcome aboard.mirandagon wrote:i also saw the turtle in the shape of 8, I really found it super sad, everything we have come to do, I am new to the forum, so I will be commenting from time to time friends
I hope it goes without saying that non-relevant links are frowned on here. Also, the www in your profile counts as boiler-plate, so you won't get any SEO value from it. (Same as signatures, when you get around to adding one. )I look forward to your participation.
Ok that's funny. Sick, but funny.Sorus wrote:...Ours consisted of a 32oz bottle of Purell that had a use-by date of 2017.
Sorry. --A
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The last few days have been wretched. There is no other way to describe it.
Yesterday I had to make the decision to have my much loved cat euthanased following a period of decline and a sudden fall into overt illness from which I judged there was little chance of recovery. This decision was made all the harder because he was not by any means old - around eight years - and should, by all rights, have had a good amount of life ahead of him. I could have taken the option to persue the route of testing and diagnosis followed by treatment, which while expensive would have been covered by his insurance - but could not simply bring myself to put him through this to the end of a highly uncertain outcome. He clearly had a very serious and malign condition at work within him, as confirmed by the examining veterinarian, and having worked for twenty plus years in the profession I am firmly of the opinion that while minor ailments that can be rapidly addressed with fast and effective treatment should be done so, animals are simply not made up to understand the ongoing diagnostic and treatment regimens to which we humans subject ourselves when long-term life threatening illness strikes. (Traumas of the accidental kind are, I hasten to add, a different matter; the end result of treatment of these is much more certain so certainly worth pursuing.)
My little lad was very dear to me; he was born in my house - I held him in the palm of my hand on the first day of his life and watched him grow into a fine cat. He was my friend. It would not be overstating it to say I am devastated by his loss, but am convinced that I made the correct decision in deciding to end his suffering. I have seen many cats go down the path he was on and rarely, with the best of intentions, do they ever make it out of the far end. On this basis and to save him the distress of being thrust into strange places with things that he could not understand being done to him I made my call. But it has been harsh - very harsh - and I now have to believe that I made the right call, that I did not let him down at the end.
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In another incident, it might have been noticed that elsewhere among these pages, for reasons best known to himself, a poster decided to give me a hard time - well no, rather just to label me "a prick" (you'll find it in the Strange News Stories thread on this forum if you're interested) with no explanation as to how or why he'd formed that (quite possibly correct) opinion of me. Thanks, by the way Av, for your admonishing the poster. I have no idea why anyone would do this; if you dislike a person's posts then say so or decline to read them. Surely this is enough?
Nothing like this has happened before in my twelve years of posting here and perhaps, due to what else has been going on in my life, it has left me somewhat depressed. It shouldn't I know: there will always be people who will do this kind of thing and one should have the strength to simply let it wash over one - but somehow, it has got to me. I have my failings - God knows, I know them better than anyone, I live with them - but this is not in the spirit of the Watch that I have enjoyed for so many years. I am dispirited, not just for myself but for all of us who have loved visiting this place. In the words of Shakespeare's play "all are punished - all are punished".
Yesterday I had to make the decision to have my much loved cat euthanased following a period of decline and a sudden fall into overt illness from which I judged there was little chance of recovery. This decision was made all the harder because he was not by any means old - around eight years - and should, by all rights, have had a good amount of life ahead of him. I could have taken the option to persue the route of testing and diagnosis followed by treatment, which while expensive would have been covered by his insurance - but could not simply bring myself to put him through this to the end of a highly uncertain outcome. He clearly had a very serious and malign condition at work within him, as confirmed by the examining veterinarian, and having worked for twenty plus years in the profession I am firmly of the opinion that while minor ailments that can be rapidly addressed with fast and effective treatment should be done so, animals are simply not made up to understand the ongoing diagnostic and treatment regimens to which we humans subject ourselves when long-term life threatening illness strikes. (Traumas of the accidental kind are, I hasten to add, a different matter; the end result of treatment of these is much more certain so certainly worth pursuing.)
My little lad was very dear to me; he was born in my house - I held him in the palm of my hand on the first day of his life and watched him grow into a fine cat. He was my friend. It would not be overstating it to say I am devastated by his loss, but am convinced that I made the correct decision in deciding to end his suffering. I have seen many cats go down the path he was on and rarely, with the best of intentions, do they ever make it out of the far end. On this basis and to save him the distress of being thrust into strange places with things that he could not understand being done to him I made my call. But it has been harsh - very harsh - and I now have to believe that I made the right call, that I did not let him down at the end.
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In another incident, it might have been noticed that elsewhere among these pages, for reasons best known to himself, a poster decided to give me a hard time - well no, rather just to label me "a prick" (you'll find it in the Strange News Stories thread on this forum if you're interested) with no explanation as to how or why he'd formed that (quite possibly correct) opinion of me. Thanks, by the way Av, for your admonishing the poster. I have no idea why anyone would do this; if you dislike a person's posts then say so or decline to read them. Surely this is enough?
Nothing like this has happened before in my twelve years of posting here and perhaps, due to what else has been going on in my life, it has left me somewhat depressed. It shouldn't I know: there will always be people who will do this kind of thing and one should have the strength to simply let it wash over one - but somehow, it has got to me. I have my failings - God knows, I know them better than anyone, I live with them - but this is not in the spirit of the Watch that I have enjoyed for so many years. I am dispirited, not just for myself but for all of us who have loved visiting this place. In the words of Shakespeare's play "all are punished - all are punished".
President of Peace? You fucking idiots!
"I know what America is. America is a thing that you can move very easily. Move it in the right direction. They won't get in the way." (Benjamin Netenyahu 2001.)
....and the glory of the world becomes less than it was....
'Have we not served you well'
'Of course - you know you have.'
'Then let it end.'
We are the Bloodguard
"I know what America is. America is a thing that you can move very easily. Move it in the right direction. They won't get in the way." (Benjamin Netenyahu 2001.)
....and the glory of the world becomes less than it was....
'Have we not served you well'
'Of course - you know you have.'
'Then let it end.'
We are the Bloodguard
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Ah Peter, so sorry to hear it man. Can only empathise and know how I would feel if it was one of mine. For me, nebulous as the term may be, quality of life is the defining criteria.
As for that other thing, don't let it get you down. Rarely are outbursts like that purposefully directed...just happened to be you this time.
Chin up man. The sun also rises.
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As for that other thing, don't let it get you down. Rarely are outbursts like that purposefully directed...just happened to be you this time.
Chin up man. The sun also rises.
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Massive thanks guys. Kind words go a long way to helping; would never have believed I would feel his loss so keenly!
President of Peace? You fucking idiots!
"I know what America is. America is a thing that you can move very easily. Move it in the right direction. They won't get in the way." (Benjamin Netenyahu 2001.)
....and the glory of the world becomes less than it was....
'Have we not served you well'
'Of course - you know you have.'
'Then let it end.'
We are the Bloodguard
"I know what America is. America is a thing that you can move very easily. Move it in the right direction. They won't get in the way." (Benjamin Netenyahu 2001.)
....and the glory of the world becomes less than it was....
'Have we not served you well'
'Of course - you know you have.'
'Then let it end.'
We are the Bloodguard
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What were those guys thinking, to store 2,500 tons of sweating ammonium nitrate in a warehouse next to a docks and residential area of a city! I mean WTF!
President of Peace? You fucking idiots!
"I know what America is. America is a thing that you can move very easily. Move it in the right direction. They won't get in the way." (Benjamin Netenyahu 2001.)
....and the glory of the world becomes less than it was....
'Have we not served you well'
'Of course - you know you have.'
'Then let it end.'
We are the Bloodguard
"I know what America is. America is a thing that you can move very easily. Move it in the right direction. They won't get in the way." (Benjamin Netenyahu 2001.)
....and the glory of the world becomes less than it was....
'Have we not served you well'
'Of course - you know you have.'
'Then let it end.'
We are the Bloodguard
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Hello everyone! I haven't logged in for a very long time.
I'm very lucky in where I live, in Japan. We were in lockdown-ish for a while, and most people had no problem adjusting to mask-wearing. It's quite common here for those with bad pollen allergies, and those trying to stay out of the sun. Numbers, of course, became an immediate problem in March, but by mid-July many companies had realized there was a new market for masks and have shifted to producing their own. Mid-July also finally meant the un-clogging, for much the same reason, of disinfectants and other useful things. Toilet paper resolved earlier, I think during May.
Japan is in a state of social distancing, mask-wearing, plastic barriers everywhere. Shops closing early. Some small specialist shops shifted to include or push mail order and delivery. Having to try moving to takeout for most orders does not work well for many restaurants. Customers do not, after all, want to go and come back. They want to go and stay, and not have to deal with the garbage.
I'm actually looking forward to checking out the COVID-19 thread. It's probably nearly like a journal of how information became available.
Peter, I have five rescue cats. One of them is 14 and has chronic Kidney disease. I don't know how much longer we'll have with her, but just like you, I'm not going to make her life miserable just to prolong it. Love her dearly!
I'm very lucky in where I live, in Japan. We were in lockdown-ish for a while, and most people had no problem adjusting to mask-wearing. It's quite common here for those with bad pollen allergies, and those trying to stay out of the sun. Numbers, of course, became an immediate problem in March, but by mid-July many companies had realized there was a new market for masks and have shifted to producing their own. Mid-July also finally meant the un-clogging, for much the same reason, of disinfectants and other useful things. Toilet paper resolved earlier, I think during May.
Japan is in a state of social distancing, mask-wearing, plastic barriers everywhere. Shops closing early. Some small specialist shops shifted to include or push mail order and delivery. Having to try moving to takeout for most orders does not work well for many restaurants. Customers do not, after all, want to go and come back. They want to go and stay, and not have to deal with the garbage.
I'm actually looking forward to checking out the COVID-19 thread. It's probably nearly like a journal of how information became available.
Peter, I have five rescue cats. One of them is 14 and has chronic Kidney disease. I don't know how much longer we'll have with her, but just like you, I'm not going to make her life miserable just to prolong it. Love her dearly!
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On the internet, no one can see your evil smirk.
Hey Peter, thinking of you and sending good vibes man.
Don’t let anyone get you down. Sorry about your cat
I just read a NYTimes article about coping. It was good for the most part. Ways to reset, like through music, or holding your face in ice cold water for 15 seconds!! I laughed at the water idea. Though if you have the courage to do it....
Take care all. Busy, busy, busy.$
Don’t let anyone get you down. Sorry about your cat
I just read a NYTimes article about coping. It was good for the most part. Ways to reset, like through music, or holding your face in ice cold water for 15 seconds!! I laughed at the water idea. Though if you have the courage to do it....
Take care all. Busy, busy, busy.$
Never fight fair with a stranger, boy. You'll never get out of the jungle that way. - Arthur Miller
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So sorry, Peter. That's never an easy choice even when it's the only choice.
Had another coworker test positive today. Worked with him yesterday. He seemed fine. Today he called in sounding like the living dead. Don't know when he was tested or why, but that's another two weeks of anxiety for all of us.
Had another coworker test positive today. Worked with him yesterday. He seemed fine. Today he called in sounding like the living dead. Don't know when he was tested or why, but that's another two weeks of anxiety for all of us.
Oh, a change is coming, feel these doors now closing
Is there no world for tomorrow, if we wait for today?
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Thanks guys; am now reconciling myself to the loss. But gosh it was hard! Would never have believed that I could have been hit so hard by it. My two remaining cats (mother and sister to the boy I lost) are obviously finding his absence a bit weird. Absolutely Tefazipipo - love her to bits and know when she needs you to be strong most.
I've just been on a bit of a scan around the pages of the Watch and there seems to be a few old friends dropping by! Great to see it!
Chin up Sorus! The bug doesn't seem terribly good at spreading; my niece's mother tested positive but not one of the family she lives with did.
I've just been on a bit of a scan around the pages of the Watch and there seems to be a few old friends dropping by! Great to see it!
Chin up Sorus! The bug doesn't seem terribly good at spreading; my niece's mother tested positive but not one of the family she lives with did.
President of Peace? You fucking idiots!
"I know what America is. America is a thing that you can move very easily. Move it in the right direction. They won't get in the way." (Benjamin Netenyahu 2001.)
....and the glory of the world becomes less than it was....
'Have we not served you well'
'Of course - you know you have.'
'Then let it end.'
We are the Bloodguard
"I know what America is. America is a thing that you can move very easily. Move it in the right direction. They won't get in the way." (Benjamin Netenyahu 2001.)
....and the glory of the world becomes less than it was....
'Have we not served you well'
'Of course - you know you have.'
'Then let it end.'
We are the Bloodguard
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It's frustrating because while I know that I was practicing social distancing during my interactions with him, the majority of my coworkers were not. They seem to think that we're all 'safe'. My boss flew to Vegas last week with her extended family - eating in restaurants, going to casinos, being on an airplane - and seemed to think these activities didn't carry any risk. This weekend she's in Tahoe, for a big family birthday celebration. Tahoe is the biggest headline of the local paper because people are going there to 'get away from the pandemic' and it's becoming a hotspot, because of course it is. And my boss is going to come in tomorrow and sit in the office with me with her mask down around her chin, and act like I'm overreacting. Am I overreacting?
Oh, a change is coming, feel these doors now closing
Is there no world for tomorrow, if we wait for today?
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You are not overreacting to keep your distance from her, wear your mask, avoid touching it or your face, keep your hands clean, etc.
You may not be in a position to question her choices, given the boss / employee dynamic, but she is on no firmer ground questioning yours.
Stay safe and healthy!
You may not be in a position to question her choices, given the boss / employee dynamic, but she is on no firmer ground questioning yours.
Stay safe and healthy!
Love prevails.
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Change is not a process for the impatient.
~ Barbara Reinhold
Courage!
~ Dan Rather
~ Tracie Mckinney-Hammon
Change is not a process for the impatient.
~ Barbara Reinhold
Courage!
~ Dan Rather