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aliantha wrote:Yup, it's going back up around here, too. Any speculation? I assumed we were getting the hikes in preparation for the influx of out-of-towners later this week. But since it's happening across-the-board, that's likely not the case. :(
Middle Eastern unrest.
Even though neither territory involved are oil-producing states, that I know of...
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Menolly wrote:
aliantha wrote:Yup, it's going back up around here, too. Any speculation? I assumed we were getting the hikes in preparation for the influx of out-of-towners later this week. But since it's happening across-the-board, that's likely not the case. :(
Middle Eastern unrest.
Even though neither territory involved are oil-producing states, that I know of...
You're probably right, Menolly. Goodness knows they've used any ridiculous, unrelated reason possible to jack up prices in the past.... :roll:
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psytechnm wrote:On Dec 30, in the morning at Kroger, the posted price was 1.199. With my Kroger discount, I paid 1.099. Since then, it's edged back up about 40 cents. :o
Wow that's incredible. It dropped down to $1.28 here before jumping 30 cents (due to MidEast unrest, so they say.) Since then, I've read on CNN.com that oil/gas supplies in the US are higher than anyone anticipated, and the prediction was made that oil will soon be below $30 per barrel.
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psytechnm wrote:On Dec 30, in the morning at Kroger, the posted price was 1.199. With my Kroger discount, I paid 1.099. Since then, it's edged back up about 40 cents. :o
Wow that's incredible. It dropped down to $1.28 here before jumping 30 cents (due to MidEast unrest, so they say.) Since then, I've read on CNN.com that oil/gas supplies in the US are higher than anyone anticipated, and the prediction was made that oil will soon be below $30 per barrel.
Yeah, I was astonished. I then watched as it went back up the next three days by 10 cents each day.
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$1.75 per gallon.
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The cheap gas station in Manassas went up this week by about 8 cents overnight. This, while the price of oil is hovering around $40/barrel. I think we're being rooked again....
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Price goes up here tonight too.

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We're back over $2.00/gallon... :(
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I think so too, Ali....
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I suspect that the recent rises in gas prices have to do with oversupplied suppliers finally getting rid of their oversupply.

Of course, once gas prices start to go up, it's inevitable that speculators will start buying ... driving the prices up ...

Then comes summer... I'm still predicting $5.00 by July.
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At 40 dollars a barrel, gas should be about $1.75-77 average. It's a little high now because of the ethanol. At current crude oil prices, ethanol is not cost effective to cut gas with. But there has been a surplus of ethanol.
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$1.75 here too.
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Just went to $1.95 here. :(
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wayfriend wrote: Then comes summer... I'm still predicting $5.00 by July.
Is that when Mass raises the gas tax?
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WF, you will be enjoying lower gas prices for quite some time.
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$1.69 today.
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Cheap gas is history, again

Americans feel the squeeze of higher pump prices, although there's little chance of a repeat of last summer's record.

NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- The days of cheap gas are retreating into the rearview mirror, as prices continue to flirt with the $2-per-gallon mark.

The national average price for a gallon of unleaded gasoline edged down 0.1 cent to $1.965 Monday, according to the motorist group AAA. This is bad news for the growing ranks of jobless Americans, who are pinching pennies and looking for ways to cut costs.

The current price would have been welcomed by summertime drivers, because it's less than half the all-time high of $4.114 per gallon, achieved last July 17.

But since gas prices slumped to a low of $1.616 per gallon on Dec. 30, they've jumped more than 20%. At their current rate, prices could easily eclipse $2 per gallon.

This is occurring as crude oil prices are trading well below $40 a barrel.

"I think what you're seeing now is a backlash of a period, from the end of the summer until the end of the year, when refiners were selling gas into the consumer market at a discount to crude oil," said Ben Brockwell, director of data pricing for OPUS.

Brockwell said refineries lost money last year, despite the surge in gas prices. The refineries in the latter half of 2008 were paying top dollar for oil, and then producing gasoline in a low-demand economy, he said. Now, refineries are producing less, driving up prices in even this low-demand economy, while stockpiling discount oil, he said.

It's hard to tell how this impacts Americans, who have been cutting back on driving since last year, and who have avoided the gas-guzzling larger vehicles, said Moody's chief economist John Lonski.

"You'd rather see energy prices lower, but it doesn't serve right now as one of the primary worries that affects consumer spending," said Lonski. "I would think that of the list of things to worry about, it does not yet rank as high as it did this spring or early summer, when gas prices were at stratospheric levels."

Robert Sinclair, spokesman for AAA in New York, one of 16 states where the price of unleaded averages more than $2 a gallon, said, "Driving levels are already pretty low, with the downturn on the economy and people holding onto their pennies and worrying about the future."

But gas prices will probably keep going up, as they often do in late winter and early spring, when refineries traditionally conduct annual maintenance on their facilities, said Peter Beutel of energy risk firm Cameron Hanover.

The silver lining for consumers is that, because of lower demand, prices are unlikely to return to their sky-high levels from last year, according to Beutel.

"I think this market is going to have a very tough time getting over $2.35 [per gallon of unleaded by Memorial Day] just because there are so many people out of work and the economy is having such as difficult time going forward," he said.
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So why is my energy bill still so damn high?
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Cagliostro wrote:So why is my energy bill still so damn high?
Excellent question.

Strangely, the price of gas at the pump has dropped 20 cents here in the last 2 days.
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That's it, I'm moving to Tennessee.
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