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Saw that there wasnt a thread on this one yet, I enjoyed this story very much. It would make a good film as well.
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Since many of us consider it a part of the Journey to the Tower, it has been discussed in those threads. But yes, while it was not a favorite of mine, it does indeed deserve its own thread.
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I think it's a really underappreciated book. It can be somewhat slow, but the ending is just fantastic.
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Agreed on the ending of Insomnia.
But, does the ending make the book?
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No, the rest of the book makes the book. The ending is the icing on the cake.
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For the most part, my biggest complaint with SK is that he typically doesn't know how to end a damn story. Most of the time they just kinda splutter to a halt. Occasionally, he gets 'em just right, like It, Pet Sematary, arguably the Dark Tower books, etc.
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Didn't much like the end of It myself.

But I love Insomnia. Every time I read it, I wonder how much acid King has dropped in his life. :D

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The end of It was my favorite of his stories. I guess because I can totally relate. Things about my childhood that I thought I would never forget have drifted from my memory. Every once in a while I'll get a flash of a memory and such and remember. So after they got all the memories back temporarily and then started to lose them again as well as the names of some of the people, it made me very sad. Then again, I've always been a packrat for nostalgia.
I guess that is why Alzheimer's strikes me as an especially sad thing.




But sure, prior to that is another of his "let's blow up this town and tell about what happened to everyone in it." And the bike ride at the end was a little cheesy.
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yah i loved Insomnia too. ralph was awesome. jeeze. i think i may need to read that one again. it's been a while. :D

i like the bike riding in the end of It too.

and yeah cag, i sooo know what you mean about the memory thing.
i love those little flashes of childhood memories. some are scary and
some are lovely.
bizarrely, i remember every name of those kids in school who
were mean to me. it's my friends' names i have a hard time with
most of the time.
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lucimay wrote:...i remember every name of those kids in school who
were mean to me...
Because those who hate are immortal.

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Avatar wrote:
lucimay wrote:...i remember every name of those kids in school who
were mean to me...
Because those who hate are immortal.

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yer kidding me. :evil: you mean freakin nora powers and susan hisle are going to live FOR EVER??? that sucks. grrrrrrrr.
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A story about thread cutters seems appropriate for the Watch.
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lucimay wrote:yer kidding me. :evil: you mean freakin nora powers and susan hisle are going to live FOR EVER??? that sucks. grrrrrrrr.
Just in your head. ;)

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Avatar wrote:
lucimay wrote:yer kidding me. :evil: you mean freakin nora powers and susan hisle are going to live FOR EVER??? that sucks. grrrrrrrr.
Just in your head. ;)

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:lol:

i'd like to say i hope they're both fat, have a thousand kids, live in trailer parks with alchoholic husbands, and watch jerry springer re-runs...
but honestly, i don't.

what i really hope is that they think of ME from time to time and wish
they hadn't been such bitches.
you're more advanced than a cockroach,
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*shrug* Maybe they do. :)

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I'm about 200 pages in so far, and I gotta say this is the worst SK of the half dozen or so that I've read. Old geezers eating mac'n cheese while the watch the news? Sitting on the bench crying about getting old? Seeing the pharmacist so that we--the readers--can get an infodump about insomnia? Ugh. I don't see the allure here.

I'm sure it will get better ... SK always does. But man is it slow. And a bit preachy on the abortion subject, making pro-lifers seem like crazy idiots.
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Post by Menolly »

I didn't care for Insomnia at all, but I read it towards the end of the DT cycle, where Av suggested it: between Song of Susannah and The Dark Tower. I'm not sure if that makes a difference or not.
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It's been about 10 years since I read Insomnia, but it was a book I enjoyed tremendously. Once it gets going it's just so surreally trippy.
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The auras are cool. I'm going to finish it because I trust that it will get better. But the pacing is off. And it's irritating that all the good guys are Democrats who love and care for their neighbors, while all the bad guys are Republicans who are batshit crazy caricatures.
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Just makes me think of acid all the time. :D

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